Da Smooth Criminal Bar Room

Step Right up and Grab a Drink Before You Get Your Hit. Don’t see what you want? You can look at all the drinks on the menu individually — just click on the picture!
[itk-eticker]INTRODUCING THE dirty, Dirty, DIRTY DIANA![/itk-eticker]
Have an Idea for a new drink? Please leave a comment and we’ll see about putting it on the menu!!!!
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A Wet Sabah: Creamy Sabah w/ just a hint of Michael in her.
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MJ
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Bad Boy Shot
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Ms. Chastity
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Chocolate Mike
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Liquid CobraCrack™
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Creamy Mike
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Creamy Mike w/ Strawberry Sabah’s Fave
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Creamy Mike w/ Chocolate – Sabah loves it!
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Creamy Orgasm (Mikegasm +Creamy Mike)
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Dirty Dirty Dirty Diana
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DDD, also served by the bottle
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Golden Boy – Lil Mike mixes/stirs
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Holoma’s Soup
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Holoma’s Soup
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L.O.V.E. Shot
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Mahba Mike + Sabah, a Perfect Combo
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Mikegasm
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Minty Mike
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Mr. M & Mrs. M
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Prince Michael’s Unleashed
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Prince Michael’s Unleashed
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Prince Royale
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Prince Michael’s Pure
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Sangre
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The Force
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The Foreplay
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The Gentleman
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The Thriller
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Thug Passion
- A Wet Sabah: Creamy Sabah w/ just a hint of Michael in her.
- MJ
- Bad Boy Shot
- Ms. Chastity
- Chocolate Mike
- Liquid CobraCrack™
- Creamy Mike
- Creamy Mike w/ Strawberry Sabah’s Fave
- Creamy Mike w/ Chocolate – Sabah loves it!
- Creamy Orgasm (Mikegasm +Creamy Mike)
- Dirty Dirty Dirty Diana
- DDD, also served by the bottle
- Golden Boy – Lil Mike mixes/stirs
- Holoma’s Soup
- Holoma’s Soup
- L.O.V.E. Shot
- Mahba Mike + Sabah, a Perfect Combo
- Mikegasm
- Minty Mike
- Mr. M & Mrs. M
- Prince Michael’s Unleashed
- Prince Michael’s Unleashed
- Prince Royale
- Prince Michael’s Pure
- Sangre
- The Force
- The Foreplay
- The Gentleman
- The Thriller
- Thug Passion
Sorry about this, but please just give security your I.D. – we don’t want no trouble.

Okay now that you’re in, Look our Bar Room. :silly: :cheerful: Annie Decorated it and I think she’s done a FABULOUS job!!!!! Thanks Annie!!!!
After, if you are still walking, talking and coherent you might want to stop by our gift shop!!!!
N O W S E R V I N G :
Hey there handsome, excuse me for a minute I’ll be right with ya’ 
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DDD, also served by the bottle

Dirty Dirty Dirty Diana
INTRODUCING The dirty, Dirty, DIRTY DIANA: Some of you addicts have been pretending. And it’s really not necessary. When you come into the bar, have a seat. Your drink has already been prepared. We’ll even serve you the bottle. After all, it’s got your name on it. :yes: :alien:
Warning: Do NOT Mix this drink with Bad Boy Shots. We’ve heard some stories, let me tell ya!

Bad Boy Shot
THE BAD BOY SHOT: Let’s face it, you’re not a good girl and you’ve never been one. You need something strong in ya and this big, black bottle IS IT. One shot is usually enough though we at CCC already know that’s not all you want. Pure Testosterone, raw masculinity infused with some BAD a$$ attitude – all you need to do is open up, throw this one back and wait for it.
:pouty: :sick: Warning (Drink Responsibly)

MJ

- MJ, Too
MJ: We’ve taken this infusion of all natural MJ bodily extracts and perfectly blended it into this refreshingly, naturally sweet and tangy citrus beverage we all ooooooof course, MJ. And we swear, it taste just like JUICE! We can’t really explain what it will do to you — experience it for yourself. You’ll understand after your very first swallow. :whistle:
A Wet Sabah: Creamy Sabah w/ just a hint of Michael in her.
In honor of our favorite couple’s special night we at CCC have created two special drinks:
CHASTITY and UNLEASHED

Ms. CHASTITY
MS. CHASTITY: Coy and uninhibited, sweet and sincere. Remember when you were without fear, honest and whole — do you want to feel like that little girl again; do you want to experience, if only for a moment, the blissfulness of youth? Enjoy, Saniia’s Ms. CHASTITY. Experience the quality that captured Michael’s heart. INNOCENCE IS INTOXICATING.
UNLEASHED: Years of discipline, control and abstinence can only result in one thing: UNLEASHED. We were there. We captured it. We bottled it. Taste the flavor of unbridled passion.

Liquid CobraCrack ™
LIQUID COBRACRACK™ There hasn’t been a chapter uploaded for days! Your internet connection is on the blitz and you can’t find your IPod. Your family and friends have completely disassociated themselves from you because you’ve become a walking zombie. Not one of them understands why you’ve been staring at the blank screen of your computer for days now. But if you don’t get some Michael in you and in you quick, you will just explode!
Due to the number of addicts jonesing outside of CCC we rolled up our sleeves and created this TEMPORARY infusion of Michael in the form of Liquid CobraCrack ™. Stock up now while supplies last. Keep some in the back of your fridge, in the garage, under your desk at work and in your nightstand. Never be without Michael again!!! But Be Warned: Liquid CobraCrack ™ is equally as addictive as the real thing and there is a high likelihood of developing a tolerance very quickly. :sad: You really just can’t replace the real thing!!!!

The cool, refreshing boyish joy of Michael in your glass.
MINTY MIKE: Inspired by Sonia: We were just goofing off, experimenting when we took Michael’s cool smile, his refreshingly sincere good nature, his boyish charm and added just a dash of delight and to our surprise, POOF!!! A Minty Mike appeared! One sip and we couldn’t stop laughing!!! Almost scientifically identical to the chemical compound of JOY, this drink will chase away any and all of your blues and put a peppermint — permanent smile on your face. Enjoy!

Creamy Sabah
CREAMY SABAH: Creamy Chocolate Mike w/ just a hint of Sabah. We searched high and low for a non-x-rated picture that we could put up and this is what we came up with — WHEWWWW!!!!

Pure
Prince Michael’s PURE – Cool, Sweet and light as mist, this magical drink refreshingly satisfies your craving for Prince Michael without the calories or the alcohol. Passion distilled to its purest form, PURE WILL cure your thirst . . . but alas not your desire. Feel free to drink it all day and all night but be warned, Prince Michael always leaves you wanting more.

:wub: L.O.V.E.:When it comes to shots, we don’t offer anything that is more electrifying. We are serving the pure essence of Michael. It IS all that he had ever stood for and nothing more. People who met him basked in its warmth. It was in his words, his actions, his demeanor, his behavior and most of all, his smile. He simply exuded it from his pores. He gave and never asked for anything in return and now we offer the same to you.
If you’re feeling down and you need a pick me up; if you have been hit with a dose of negativity and need something to chase it away, we present to you something that will fill you with only the most natural of highs. It is ten times stronger than any of our other drinks and lasts twice as long: L.O.V.E. Have a shot today and experience the love of Michael Jackson. ***If you experience an immediate sense of peace, joy and contentment, don’t be alarmed that’s the magic of Michael in your system.

Chocolate Covered Mike
CHOCOLATE COVERED MIKE: For those of us with a sweet tooth introducing, Chocolate covered Mike. It’s decadently sweet, addictive, satisfying and unbelievably good for you. It’s just too perfect, OMG!!!!

SANGRE: Other establishments serve Sangria. We serve Sangre. Simply put, this sensually, seductive mixture of perfectly blended fruit, aged wine and just a tinsy weensy drop of Michael’s blood will invade your system and change your personality FOREVER. Undercover cameras captured the woman in the picture above seconds after she took one sip – we are not even sure she had a chance to swallow. Michael NEVER knew what hit him but I hear he was smiling for days afterward. Try it – if you’re woman enough. :devil:
THE FORCE: This drink is served with a resuscitation kit. I don’t’ think I need to say more!

The Prince Royale
THE PRINCE ROYALE: You’re a lady, and you know truthfully that is the only kind of woman who can capture Michael’s heart. You only drink to relax, not to get drunk like some of the lesser women who frequent Da Smooth Criminal. You’re not interested in cheap sex, you want a life time commitment from the object of your affection. Your drink will be served in our finest crystal, the ones etched in gold, on a silver platter in the VIP section of the bar. The smooth and fruity undertones of this vintage wine will peel away the layers of your resistance until you are as free from your inhibitions as any Creamy Mike lover. The only difference is you’ve done it with style. The price of this drink only reflects your superior self-worth. Go ahead splurge. You’re worth it! And Michael will definitely take notice. He enjoys the finer things in life and so do you.

Thug Passion
THUG PASSION: Okay it’s no Michael but you’re strapped for cash. The flavor doesn’t last as long but it’s just a ‘lil something to keep you going until you can get a REAL drink. A favorite of our financially challenged customers. What you see is what you get and damn, come on girls, you have to admit, it looks good as hell.
THE MABHA: A smooth and tangy combination of Sabah and Michael with a twist and zesty kick at the end. Don’t nurse it, ’cause it get’s flat. Drink it while it still has that sizzle!
THE GENTLEMAN WILL stay in you all night and will also be the first thing you feel when you wake up in the morning. Now let’s be clear: It’s not a hangover. It’s better than a hangover. It’s a HANG ON I’M CUMIN’.

Cool, milky, deceptively sweet.
THE MIKEGASM: Hands down, our most popular drink! Cool, Milky and deceptively sweet, you won’t see where the bang is coming from but IT WILL hit ya!!!!! What’s worst, you’ll keep ordering it anyway. We can’t explain why it explodes in your mouth, we just know we like it!!!! Make sure you have a designated driver if you start throwing back this one. We’re not going to take responsibility and you WON’T have just one.
MR. M: This is our signature beer. We brew it on the premises but if you’re watching yourself, you can get our light version instead.
MRS. M: The light version of our homemade brew, for our responsible drinkers who also want to make it home in one piece.

Holoma's Soup
HOLOMA’S SOUP: This deceptively potent drink has babies popping up all over the place and since Michael loves da kids, we just can’t take it off the menu. It’s spicy and fruity and served with a strangely cool mist circling up top. Don’t mind the woman in the back hovering over the cauldron. She mixes a big batch of it every morning and though we’ve never asked for a specific list of ingredients, she says that it’s all natural and we trust her!!!

Creamy Mike

Creamy Mike w/ Extra Creme
CREAMY MIKE: (Inspired by Annie) Pure milk chocolate, lightened to perfection with thick, heavy cream and a blend of exotic liqueurs, the taste of this drink will linger in your mouth for hours. You’ll find yourself constantly licking your lips and thinking about it even after you’ve cleaned the last drop out of the glass with your finger. So delicious we naturally prepare two when it’s ordered because everyone gulps them down so quickly. BE WARNED: This drink WILL give you a particularly wicked alcoholic sugar rush. A number of women find it very difficult to keep their legs closed even after one small sip.

The Foreplay
THE FOREPLAY: (Inspired by Martinigirl) Trust me. Looks CAN be deceiving. This seemingly happy go lucky drink will put you flat on your back and keep you there. No matter what you’ve heard YOU ARE NOT READY for this drink. The tangy taste of pineapples smothered in Amaretto and Southern Comfort will knock you right off your feet – literally. Once on your back, you WILL stay there for days . . . and nights. I took this off the menu because I lost a couplah return customers. It’s served with a life size cut out of the Michael pic above. A bunch of people ordered, left and were never seen again.

Golden Boy
THE GOLDEN BOY: (Inspired by Enola) From the moment this Martini came into existence we knew it was special. Inexplicably sliding down your throat like icy cold molten lava, we struggled to formulate an adequate description. Fearing, because the drink was so powerful, that we would face multiple law suits if we put this volatile concoction on our menu we decided in the end it would only be safe to offer ONE drink PER PERSON per LIFE TIME. Ladies, ladies, before you protest, please try and understand: The Martini . . . shakes/stirs itself! (Cue dramatic music) ( O-O )
THE THRILLER — (Inspired by MJQuan) It sizzles, it pops, it dances in your mouth and then it gets down in you and makes you wanna dance, too. One sip, and your hand is up in the air, you’re pursing your lips and saying, “Oooooo”!!! This is our most popular non-alcoholic drink. You can take it all day and never get tired. Enjoy!

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1500 comments in Da Bar! Let’s celebrate! LOL
“Thrad” era… uh uh:

But Bad era PM, oh… and almost in his next transition stage (1989-1990, Bad-Dangerous)…
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Ooooh, what are we drinking to celebrate????
He looks so good with the red underglow, biting his lips like that, naughty Thrad Mike.
I knew you’d come through with a pic!!!!
Dad Era Mike or Bangerous — which one?
Dad era? Bangerous?
:pouty:
I love this one:

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*Grabbing a bottle of Sangre and guzzling it*
My God Annie! :w00t:
You can’t just put up pics like that without warning me! I mean OMG!
LOL, I know right?
You can tell he’s Bad era but leading towards Dangerous already. Like BoW short film (it’s more confusing there because of the straightish hair). Or the Soul Train Awards from ’89 (again same hair):
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/bad/awards/soultrain/012.jpg
Ok, I need something sweet (even more, yeah) to keep taste in mouth before falling asleep… Chocolate covered Mike (matches perfectly with the groggy Mike from RR, where I’m spending the night!)
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Hey girls, anyone still here? It was an insanely busy weekend here celebrating my little one’s birthday, lots of cooking, cleaning, family, etc. so I haven’t been around. I’m exhausted but lonely, just had to stop by.
OOOH a new drink..PURE….sounds nice, i’ll try ! …sweet Prince MIchael :angel:
Good night! We sprayed the room with Halo for you!!!
He was just too good looking!!!
(you’ll find me here in the morning I guess)
*sigh* oh well, guess i’m all alone….maybe i can catch someone tomorrow..
heading off to recovery for a bedtime story before tucking in for the night…. :sleeping:
Morning is there anybody in here??
*slinking in from the sweet and beatuiful room* mmmmmMorning ladies
oh – okay! I like that ERA too.. Thrad – very yummie. (Godo one Annie) So we are in 1987, right….So he looks like he does in Yokohama… we are still transitioning there… oh my – he is blowing me kisses! Oh I am all a flutter on Monday!
Oh my… I dunno what to do – being the badtourgirl I am…. but I love my pre bad sexy victory tour Mike too.. when he looks like he did on the magazine cover I sent you….. Oh god… I may faint.
which I can’t seem find at work.. oh it is on FB
*running to the profile – trying not to spill my warm creamy Mike…*
*BIG HUGE YAWN AND picking myself up the floor where I fainted last night*
What’s doing ladies? I will have my now customary cup of PURE.
Hey MGirl, Sonia :smile:
I see I missed Gracie :sad:
But happy birthday to Ms. Little Lady — she’s 3 now, right? Awwww love them at that age!
MGirl, pre-Thriller MIchael is so yummy! I don’t know there was something so very masculine about him at that time, which is so strange but I can’t help but see it — he’s oozing it frm his pores!
Oh my goodness – I totally agree….
You know what really makes me laugh or sometimes really confuses me even – is I am really not a fan of pretty boys. Probably why I like my Mike all sweaty and pouting…
But no seriously I don’t want my man to be pettier than me or using up my moisturizer… give me Omar Epps or Denzel any day…. but Michael is the one and only exception oh and I would do anything for Brad Pitt when he doesn’t have that awful beard
But Michaels was/is just so freaking beautiful inside and out – and his smile just melts my heart… even when I look at pictures way beyond the “eras” I love – that smile was always so beautiful…
I am also quite the fan of the filled out gold pants – like all of are… but I like him with meat on his thighs… : ) and hello mama – totally FREAKING SEXY AS HELL.
*cursing myself*
Why do I come in here when I should be working… now I can’t concentrate at all.
Hey Gracie… I do have my snacks… is it nap time? I could use one.
Picking up Sabine off the floor….handing a Golden Boy
Girl you need a kick of something and a L.O.V.E shot’s not gonna do it
:heart: You know I haven’t tried a Prince Michael yet….so pass one this way, sounds like my kind of poison.
MMMmmmm….just PERFECT! This is my favorite drink from now on….next to the L.O.V.E shot of course.
I need a spelll check… dammit… PRETTIER… PRETTIER
crap
Don’t get me started on Michael with some meat on his bones! And he was so angry during the Dangerous tour, rightfully so, but still, it gave me chills!!!!
I’m with you on the pretty boy, never have/never will I guess except Michael being the exception.
I don’t even prefer a man who has a light complexion than me. It’s my father’s fault. He told me one day in all seriousness that I should not date a man who was too dark, so that my children won’t come out too dark. So of course, I promptly went out and found the darkest man I can find!!! :lol:
Ooooo, Omar Epps, and Denzil — I think their attractiveness also has something to do with an inner confidence or charisma, I can’t place it, but definitely it’s not just in the face.
You see different glimpses of Michael’s personality as his face changed, sometimes fragile, sometimes hauntingly painful hurt, so that you just wanted to put him in the palm of your hands and protect him, sometimes raw strength, righteous anger — it was all there, and he didn’t hide it, which I LOVE.
Hey Sonia, honey, thanks for helping me off the floor. EVeryone else was just STEPPING right over me!!!! :lol:
Oooo, thanks for the Golden Boy (you can stop stirring now Little Mike :smile:)
You mean you haven’t tried the PURE essence of Prince Michael, well, you’re in for it now, one taste and you won’t be able to stop!
hey girls…happy Monday to you all!
My little girl actually is officially 2 tomorrow, i’ve been saying she was two already, I round up!
MartiniGirl, naptime is at 12:30 today, what kind of snacks do you have? I’ve got leftover homemade birthday cake…
Oh an I am completely in agreement, Michael is totally not my type at all, I do not like men who fuss with their looks at all, my husband can’t even match his clothes and i wouldn’t have him any other way but somehow it’s different with Michael, just can’t explain it. He is so incredibly beautiful and so unique, he is like no other!
Sooo, I’m trying some of Prince Michael’s PURE today, heard it’s the newest thing….
Hey girls. Just popping in to say hi. I’m finishing the last of my assignments for the semester.
It’s ashame, I need a fix. Didn’t see a new chapter so I’m re-reading CM. I’m so ready for the break.
Love the gif of MJ :wub: :blush:
UGH! I feel for you Pink…this was always the hardest time for me to be doing school work! It’s so lovely out and you just want to be DONE!!
Here’s a shot of L.O.V.E. honey, hope it helps!
Oh Gracie… homemade cake! Yummy.
Well I have an apple and a piece of cheese for my mid mornings snack – but I am sure if I root around in my purse I have all kinds of bar snacks to share… maybe we let the kiddies nap and we hang at the bar?
My hubbies’ clothes match… but he is such a guy guy… always taking me to the tool section in Home Depot like I care… One day I said outloud – honey I am only interested in this section if they have something that takes batteries….
Now he leaves drops me off at La Senza/Victoria’s Secret and says meet me in an hour… hehehe..
Oh that reminds me did I ever tell you guys about my ring tone…. We had a HD incident… too hilarious.
When I have time I will come back and give you all a really good laugh!
Sabah – that is hilarious. You are pretty light skinned – are you mixed? My dad never said anything like that to me… he just said – why don’t you have a boyfriend – are you gay? Umm – no dad – I don’t have a steady boyfriend I am just “trying” them all out first…
hehehe…
gold pants… gold
okay I have to work for a bit!
mwah ladies…ENJOY
Sabah?
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:cheerful: Most Black people in America are mixed, as far as I’m concerned! :lol: But my father is so light, he doesn’t even tan or so he claims.
Ooooo, Gracie, the terrible twos — you know them well!
Holding up a glass of PURE L.O.V.E. — I’ve mixed the two in honor of the hell you’ll be going through in a few — I’m just kidding. You know I like babies better than I like teens!
Hey MGirl, I LIKE Home Depot! :lol: I swear, I’m always fixing something in my house!
Pink, honey, I’m sure we’ll be able to rustle up something for you by the time you’re done with your classes!
Just a quick comment…
Michael is the very opposite of what I thought I like when it comes to men. As a teenager it was always tall, blonde guys with bright blue eyes – and a bad attitude. The quintessential Scandinavian man…:wink:
Then I got older, Michael came into the picture – and everything changed. I have had to realize that I love soft spoken men too, and that brown eyes can be just as lethal. When combined with Michael’s other qualities, well, he’s just too good to be true. I will never understand the women who do not have a thing for him.
hahaha… I called you Sabah and didn’t even notice it! DOH! (well we all know it is you… is your sisters’ name Abena?)
True, true… my dad is black and I would say he is medium brown skinned and my mother is the kitchen sink with whack of Native Indian in her… and look at me most – I can pass for white, with attitude!
Oh don’t get me wrong – I love the Depot and we just got Lowes here – I just don’t wanna hang out in the aisles and talk about the reciprocating saw we just have to have!
*waving to Enola*
Sabine and I were discussing this on the other thread and I just want to say for the record Sabine….
I always thought black is GORGEOUS. It doesn’t matter whether its white or black but its what’s on the inside that makes people beautiful period. The culture that I grew up in always puts pressure on women to look their best that is physically appealing and the guy can let himself just go, but that don’t matter because he’s man….I BEG TO DIFFER! Its this type of attitude from society that caused Michael to do what he did to himself, and Joe Jackson sure didn’t make it easier. Someone must have passed off racist comments to him when he was growing up the the south and therefore he started calling Michael big nose and I think he even called Michael “too dark”.You know if I ever come back in the afterlife and if Michael was to come back because my husband said he isn’t coming back to this world again, I just want to say if Michael looked exactly the same as he did before all that vitiligo and all I would MARRY HIM ANY DAY!!! Considering he has the same personality. That’s why I love that you have not made it obvious what Sabah and Saniia look like. It kinda reminds them of me, except for African and Oriental, I can almost pass for anything, European, Hispanic, Middle Eastern, etc etc from what others have told me. So that’ just goes to show physical characteristics are just something to identify yourself with, its what’s on the inside that counts.
I remember on that interview Diane Sawyer did with LMP, at one point she asked LMP, “what about the way he looks??” I was like what about the way Michael looks?? He has a great heart a beautiful personality and that makes him a thousand times better than alot of people out there.
Sabine I hope you don’t mind, but I posted this to demonstrate how women can feel so pressured by society to do all kinds of things to themselves although I’m not saying men don’t have pressure also, but I find it to be very true.
Well, naptime is off to a late start…had to go pick one of the boys up from school, he’s sick. Just got him settled on the sofa now.
rats, I forgot the cake! be right back!
I’ll bring some for you too! I know you don’t eat sweets but i promise it is only as fattening as the Chocolate Covered Mike! :cheerful:
Okay, here’s birthday cake for all! *Grace starts serving square of luscious chocolate cake with gooey pink buttercream icing AND sprinkles* ice cream too! we have vanilla or rocky road!
*Gracie feeling stupid* ok, i actually have a picture of the cake but for the life of me can’t figure out how to send it so use your imagination! :ermm:
MartiniGirl, my husband isn’t a “guy’s guy” either, thank goodness! no tools or hunting or anything like that. He is an athletic type, a sports fan but not in the fat slob beer-drinking way, and he is also a bookworm like me and writes me stuff, but he is mostly all about the kids. He works A LOT to support all of us so when he is home he is in 100% Daddy mode (until they go to bed anyway :blush: )
Enola I loved “I will never understand the women who do not have a thing for him.” I feel the same way…Michael is EVERYONE’s type!
and I am so envious of all you beautiful ladies! I am plain white (although because i live in a largely Hispanic city, I am often mistaken for being Latino because I have very dark hair) and i always was attracted to guys who were Hispanic or black or mixed whatever…basically tall, dark, and handsome…..ended up with an adorable freckled red-head! Love is blind…. :wub:
Anyway, I simply cannot comprehend racism, it has never made any sense to me. ALL people of all colors are beautiful.
You are all so lovely, ladies. (Hi!)
(I’m a bit envious too, Gracie – LOL)
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Annie, hi baby girl! I was hoping you would stop by for some cake, I was thinking of you and your cute little “nomnomnomnom” :lol:
Awwww, would you mind showing it to us? (I heard you have a pic?)
You can just upload it here (http://www.tinypic.com/) and then paste the link!
Then I’ll be *nomnomnom* + awwww + *nomnomnom* + ohhhh + *nomnomnommm…*
:blush:
Oh Annie, I tried honey, I am just old and dumb when it comes to computer stuff :sad: I uploaded it and resized and everything fine but I can’t right-click on this page to paste the link! I don’t know why, I can’t right-click at all on here. i just have no clue! but trust me it’s delicioso! …and goes great with anything on the bar menu too!
@Gracie…sorry I missed it earlier, I guess I wasn’t paying attention but its your girl’s birthday and she’s turning 2!
:wub: :heart: HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO HER! From my side.
Thanks Sonia, these are always bittersweet days for me when the babies are growing up! a funny story, i know some of you are into astrology and the signs we are born under, etc. well, my daughter was born April 20 while the Pope was saying Mass at Yankee Stadium…for my husband a Catholic Yankee fan, that was like a sign from above, like all the stars being in alignment!! :lol:
Aw, Gracie, you’re not old nor dumb! Just try if you want, instead of right click, selecting the link and then Crtl+C. But don’t worry, I’m sure it’s delicious! Did you make it? We could sprinkle it with Chocolate Mike and plce the little Michael surrounded by 2 candles, each one on either side.
I join Sonia, happy birthday to your little treasure!
@Gracie…..BEAUTIFUL LADY! don’t you dare say things like that about yourself. This is the second time I’ve caught you talking about yourself like that. You aren’t old or dumb. Learning is a wheel that continuously turns until the last day and never stops. There are alot of things I don’t know that I pick up all the time as I go, and others learn from you. I love your comments, they are amongst my favorites. I read everyone’s posts, but always love reading the ones you write.
:wub: :heart: Throwing a big Prince Michael at the beautiful lady!!!
What you wrote about the stars being aligned, I so agree with you. You know my husband and I have had an astrologer since we’ve been married and have always consulted him all along the way and he’s been guiding us. His predictions are so accurate and detailed and NEVER WRONG!! We always find ourselves asking afterwards, HOW DID HE KNOW THAT, Because we sure didn’t see it coming, its really helped us, otherwise we could have made some serious mistakes, of course our own decision and destiny plays a major part, some people are just gifted to help guide you that’s all, but they are not the ones who write your destiny but just help interpret it.
So many of you ladies here are so WONDERFUL. I wonder why I don’t run into all of you in the local grocery store or on the street. When we go out we see all jerks and people who are angry. Yesterday my husband took my daughter out for a while, so I could relax a bit and today he told me the most outrageous thing that happened to him.
He was going through the drive through ATM at the bank and the guy in the car behind him yelled from his car to my husband while he was withdrawing his money asking if my husband had a pen on him. I was like why does he need a pen at an ATM, and my husband said, well maybe he need to write a check or something, I’m like well shouldn’t he have had one on him?? Anyways my husband just answered “NO” and then this car goes ahead of him or something, the guy was with his family and his son who was maybe only 7 or 8 rolled down the window and gave my husband THE FINGER! While they drove away, just for not having a pen on him!!!! I WAS LIKE WTF!!!!
:blink: That one was beyond me. I guess some people have got some real issues, uh!!
:heart: I guess that father should learn a thing or two from Michael about L.O.V.E, and teaching kids good manners.
Oh Sonia, it’s hard to explain why i feel that way about myself :unsure: I have never been socially “comfortable”, if that makes sense, I always try to travel under the radar. And now, having been in my little mommy bubble for the last 10 years, it is really strange for me to do the simplest things that people do every day and sometimes i feel like a stupid old-fashioned housewife with no clue about the modern world. If I think about it, maybe it’s because I grew up with a women’s- libber for a mother who openly despised and insulted women who didn’t work so now, even though i KNOW that i am intelligent (let’s not even get into my childhood shame at being ‘smart’) and that what i do IS important, I guess i still haven’t transcended that stereotype. So, anyway, thanks for the vote of confidence.
I would love to run into you in the grocery store! wouldn’t that be funny? Usually when i’m there it’s mostly senior citizens! :lol: never really met anyone interesting! now the city farmer’s market, THAT’s where all the fun people are!! oh well, we always have da bar!
You know Gracie, reading your post I almost feel that we as women are often placed in no win situations. If we work we are unfit mothers, and if we don’t work and take that time out to look after kids until they are grown up and go to school full time, we are seen as old fashioned and stupid. WHY!!!!
Let me tell you, I’m a real hart hitter when it comes to women’s rights and liberation. I guess I have the same view as you but for a different reason. I grew up in a household where it was always being stressed that a women should never shine and show her potential so that she appeals more to a man, because men don’t like strong confident women who can hold their own. A woman’s duty is to be a housewife, because they are too stupid and the real world is not their department. Of course that made me even more determined to be on my own, only because I saw having a career and money of my own as the only way to keep my self respect, but when everyone is rooting for your failure it sure can make things difficult.
I know what you mean when you say you don’t feel competent just because you’re a housewife, because prior to my marriage, I was alot more independent and on my own. But since my husband came along, I only relaxed my hard feminist attitude because he was nice to me and respected me. He has never ONCE, said he is the MAN or earns the money around here. I finished college after I got married, but since I had my daughter like you I have gone into that full mommy mode, and it does make me feel out of touch with reality at times. But that’s really not being fair to ourselves. I think being mothers and looking after the family is a tough job, its just that we don’t get a pay check for it. I would love to go out and be that go getter girl once again, and I support it, because it does give you a sense of control and confidence. I had a really rotten mood for the last few days because my husband’s father asked him a question about me that just pissed me off. My husband is always into the stock market, finance world, and up to date with the economy and all, so he’s really on top of his game, and discusses with this father alot but me as well. I get so caught up in other things at times, I can’t just drop everything and look at the stock every minute or spend every waking moment in the newspapers, but that doesn’t mean I’m stupid or anything. My husband’s father asked him ‘does your wife no anything about economics??” and my husband said “NO”. I was so fuming with smoke coming out of my ears I said to my husband the next time your dad asks you about my intelligence or other stuff just ask him to remember the women in his family who can’t even drive a car and look up to men as God’s and are totally out of touch with reality. Oh and the astrologer whom I mentioned in my last post also told my husband prior to our marriage marry that girl, SHE IS INTELLIGENT AS HELL!!
that too with a good heart.
:biggrin: I reminded my husband of this and said I REST MY CASE!!! I said you always discuss with me so many things and say how I’m so right, even his father talks things with me that he doesn’t talk with my husband’s mother or his sister, because they really are out of touch, so I was so angry when this question was put forth about me, LOL!! Like WTF. Just because you guys are more informed about something don’t make you guys next in line for the Nobel Prize.
My point is Gracie, don’t let being a mommy make you feel incompetent, its just not being fair to ourselves. I realized one thing after marriage, home really is where the heart is, and you come home to at the end of the day, and nothing else matter. I guess people are just running from their families and home when they are lacking themselves somewhere or they see someone having something they don’t and have to make others feel bad about it. My mother always said that I shouldn’t work and be a housewife, but after I got married she was telling my husband make her work and slog it out everyday, only because she couldn’t stand to see me having the husband and family she could never have. Even when I use to work and earn money they still never gave me respect and I paid their credit card and grocery bills so many times, because to them a woman’s work has no value. Talk about a dilemma, you work no respect don’t work no respect, what to do? I can tell you have a great family and never let anyone make you feel small because of it. I’m making my daughter the same way, she should get her education and its not important for her to get married or anything UNLESS she finds a nice guy who respects her, and I’ll teach her that nothing is more important than self respect and you should never compromise unless its unconditional love in return.
*tallking with cake in mouth*
Picture food flying EVERYWHERE!!!
Hmph! I’d challenge anyone to make sense out of racism because it doesn’t make any sense at all. IF you have one drop of “Black blood” you’re considered black, but genetically we all the same. Athough the concept is that anything having to do with black is “ugly” we are always emulated and copied and other races spend a lot of time and money trying to look like, sound and dance like us.
It makes no sense at all! Unless of course you look under it and realize it’s fueled by self hatred and low self esteem. Any kind of prejudice is.
Gracie, your baby girl is an Aries! She’s probably so funny! If you want to post that link just control C on the page where the link is after highlighting it, and then control V on the page here to post it.
You can’t right click because I disabled because of SPAM :cheerful:
You know Gracie, Sonia, I wrote an article years ago called, Women Where Art Thou — do you think we, collectively as women are all that smarter then we were? I really don’t think so. We fought for our rights because we were oppressed, we wanted to work and support ourselves and prove that we are just as good as any other man, if not better.
But somewhere along the line I think we forgot or lost our self -esteem and sight of what is important: like family and children and having a partner.
I look around and I see women with careers and educations DESPERATE to have a baby!!!!
And when they do, guess what, they don’t really want to work anymore.
I look around and I see women who have achieved so much tearing themselves down because they don’t “look” a certain way, or they are not a certain size.
I see smart women with careers PLAYING themselves for the love and attention of men who are not half as accomplished as they are.
So no, honey, I don’t think you’re a dumb old anything.
You are raising four beautiful children, the most important job of the world. In large part you get to decide whether they will be Jermaines or Michaels!!!
OH Sabine..
Girl you’re so good just summing up my 1 billion words in alot less. That’s exactly what I just told Gracie, never let anyone make you feel small for being a housewife, its the toughest job in the world with no ‘real” pay check.
Yeah Sabine I always wondered if those women out there are so happy with their high flying careers how come they get so mad when they see a woman who is married happily with babies??? As I said, I knew when to relax my hard feminist attitude because that was only second to what I really wanted, my own family which is the most important thing in the world.
UH I’ll take Michael’s children any day, As for Jermaine, the kind of women who will want his kids are the ones who were too high nosed and full of themselves. I have often found that such women think they don’t need anyone and are too good for any guy, sometimes there may have been a really nice guy like Michael along the way and they just didn’t value him enough to settle down when they had the opportunity and then when they find their biological clock is ticking away they get desperate to have babies and along comes all the Jermaine’s out there. But I also find the same things with alot of men also, who may have mistreated a nice girl along the way or were too busy being womanisers in their prime. The result either if its a man or woman, these are the people who end up living with 50 cats and dogs for company. When I saw my husband I knew “I BETTER NOT LET THIS ONE SLIP THROUGH MY FINGERS’! Nice people are hard to come by in this day and age. I guess this is why LMP was following Michael around after their divorce, but it was a little to late BABY!!. She only realized his worth after losing him.
I wonder how Michael must have felt, seeing her pregnant with Twins for her what, third husband?
I don’t understand women who marry two, three times — no judgment, it just baffles my mind.
But Sonia, those women you’ve described and the men, the womanizer and the hight nose, full of themself woman = low self esteem.
It’s all an act.
I look back at my mother who raised six kids and I don’t know how she did it! I mean she neglected us and abused us, so maybe that’s how!
But one day, I was home, I woke up, made breakfeast, after breakfast I washed a load of laundry and then start lunch. I helped my son with his homework and then my daughter, then I got the laundry put it in the dryer and washed another load and then served lunch. Then I had to wash the dishes from lunch and start dinner. As I was hauling up the laundry and my daughter was yelling that my son spilled something I said to myself,
I dare anyone to tell me that being a mother is not a full time job!!!!
Woman are caretakers — it’s in our nature to want to reproduce and care for our husbands and children. I think when we were fighting for our rights we forgot about that.
Then our biological clocks started ticking and we looked around at all our accomplishments and still felt empty, so we went out desperately searching for mate and children and settled for a whole bunch of Jermaines, to me that’s what happened.
oh my , I just had the most interesting conversation with my white as rice 13-yo…he was telling one of his friends that soccer sucks and isn’t a ‘real’ sport, that’s why so many white guys play it!! I was like :w00t: WHAT?!? he said, very matter-of-factly, everyone knows white guys are the worst athletes, the best athletes are black so that’s why they play basketball and football. Here I thought it was wonderful that he was growing up in a society in which it is okay for him to have black men as heroes but now he thinks he can never be as good as them , that he is limited by the color of his skin! So we talked about specific athletes who are white, black, Hispanic, Japanese, etc. who have succeeded but I can tell it really hasn’t changed his feelings. OYE! This is one for Daddy! I’m out of my league here!
hey wait, this is the bar right? I need a drink!!
Girls, I KNOW that what I am doing is important and that it’s what God wants me to be doing right now but I just cannot shake off those feelings of inadequacy sometimes. When I was little I can still remember crying every day when my mom dropped me off at the babysitter’s house and even in school sometimes I would cry if I knew that my mom was at home that day. I always wanted my mom to be at home so when my son was born I knew we had to find some way for me to stay home, that i could never put my child through that and my husband has always been supportive and appreciative of what i do.. That’s not to say that many kids aren’t completely fine and thrive in child care settings ( I know, I worked in child care for several years) but I was not one of them and I wanted to do right what my mom had done wrong.
And Sabine “YIKES!” @ one of my kids turning into a Jermaine!! bite your tongue girl!! you owe me another drink for that!!
Sonia, LOL@ the people with 50 cats and dogs for company! always thought i would end up one of those….
Okay, okay *sliding Grace a glass of PURE L.O.V.E.* The Jermaine comment was a kinda low blow. I’m sorry.
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You know when you’re feeling down or lacking, please think of me. My children are 15 months apart. I left their Dad when my daughter was six months and I was pregnant but didn’t know. For the first two years, I don’t think I even saw them more than an hour a day.
Thank God for this lovely babysitter who was like a mother to them, for me.
I mean, I can’t EVER get those years back!!!! :sad:
When I wrote the article I got a bunch of hate mail from Feminists who said I was belittling the progress made over the years and relegating women to just stay at home Moms with no potential
My response:
Methinks thoust protest too much
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I mean that’s not what I was saying at all. There are some women who should never have children. There are some that don’t want to and more power to them. Some don’t want to get married and that’s cool, too.
Oh shoot, about your convo w/ your 13 yr old — it’s kind of like Karma, don’t you think?
I mean welcome to the world of a young black child of African descent. HOw hard did Michael have to struggle to be accepted. And I often wonder if his Vitiligo didn’t have something to do with it. They wouldn’t even play him on MTV for Gods Sakes!
There have been so many opportunities held back from those of AFrican descent, and since we were cross bread as slaves so that slave women would produce stronger, “better” “stock” — that’s why we excel at sports.
I think it’s ironic that now, all these many years later, a 13 yr old child of Caucasian descent would think that “the best athletes are black” — Slave masters would roll over in their grave.
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I think you handled it well, Gracie pointing out all the men who are of different races who excel, but I would have explained WHY Black people excel so much in sports, there’s no denying it, and he see’s it, and took it also as an opportunity to use that as an example of how stupid it is to categorize people by color and treat them differently, and also how sometimes it backfires big time.
Sabine
You said it, its a FULL TIME JOB!!! When I was in high school, one day we were having this discussion in class about adding new classes in the curriculum. I proposed their be a Home Economics class that looks like a home, with a living room, kitchen and all for THE BOYS!!! I said guys need to learn respect and see how touch a a woman’s job can be, they should learn to cook clean and be on a schedule. If a woman can work outside the home and come at the end of the day and keep going, then why not the guys?? They always go around beating their drums about being TOUGH and all, so lets just see how tough they are, LOL!!! Whenever I’ve heard a man comes home to his wife and says “what the hell have you been doing all day”. My proposal, dump the entire household on him for just a few days. I was joking to my husband, that he has to stay home while I go to work. He has to do everything on time, cooking, cleaning, laundry, everything should be spic and span and be on schedule and not take his merry little time, and course listen to the our daughter’s tantrums and all and spend time with her. I said I can assure you, you won’t even last one day.
:devil: If anyone comes up to me and says full time housewives and mother’s are stupid or whatever, they will be gifted a nice black eye from me “COURTESY OF MADAME SONIA THE GREAT!!!”. Soft on the outside, but hardcore on the inside. That feminist fire is still there, actually with more help from the hubby its raging even worse, when he tells me stories of what the other husbands he knows do to their wives.
Yesterday it was just one of those days, and when I finally sat down to have some coffee my daughter wanted hot chocolate to give me company and she accidently hit her mug and it went flying all over the sofa and carpet, I was almost in tears and on the verge of breaking down. My day starts at 5:00am sharp and its at least well into the afternoon before I can even get a break.
As for running into Jermaine’s and all that. I always knew what I wanted and never wasted my time, but I sure had alot of Jermaine’s that wanted my attention but I just walked right past them. Never had an issue with my biological clock ticking. In fighting for my rights, I never lost sight of what was really important and who I was. This world is too messed up to change everyone and I’m not responsible for anyone’s behavior but I sure can control who does and doesn’t get my most precious time and an important place in my life, and that’s all that matters at the end.
:wassat: As for what you said about Michael. Yeah I often have thought about that when he must have heard about her twins, how he must have felt. Its strange how those twin’s father’s name is Michael also and he is her 4th husband, Michael was the second. LMP didn’t know what she wanted in life, and was too messed up, that’s why she was going through so many marriages, don’t know how long the current one is going to last. But it always surprised me seeing Michael with her, because Michael was always so religious and down to earth, old fashioned and LMP was really messed up being into drugs and going through so many relationships. I just don’t know what Michael saw in her. LMP always seemed completely the opposite of what the kind of woman Michael liked. dunno???
I’m a firm believer in one marriage and its forever. I don’t mean to be judgemental or anything but I would be very reluctant to marry someone who was previously divorced, because in my mind its would be like if they couldn’t make it work the first time or whatever, what are the chances this person will stick on with me?? I know this may seem like a very unfair statement, because that person may not be to blame, but its a case by case basis. Like Michael, I don’t really think he was at fault, so I would give him the benefit of doubt. I love TTWC a bit more nowadays because I love the though now knowing Michael and Saniia will be each other’s first, and I always loved the thought that there was no on before me in my husband’s life and no one had him intimately before me, its all my own and not shared with anyone else. I know that sounds so old fashioned but that’s just me. I always thought Michael was like this so I couldn’t get his fascination with LMP.
hello beautiful and intelligent ladies…
What are we drinking?
Hi MartiniGirl! look I saved you a piece of cake!
http://i43.tinypic.com/28k7qj7.jpg
I have no idea if that worked, I’ve been trying REALLY hard….
WOOHOO!!!!!! I did it! YES! *Gracie fist-pumping the air* One large step forward for housewives everywhere!!
*bowing and blowing kisses to my fans*
Thank you, thank you….I could never have done it without the support of all the beautiful smart ladies at Da Bar!!
Golden Boys all around to celebrate my great success!
Sabine and Gracie, you guys were writing at the same time.
Its cool if a woman want to stay home and I’m totally for women with careers as long as they do it for THEMSELVES and aren’t trying to prove something for the wrong reasons. Whenever we as family go out, and see these women who are so independent and all, they always look like they want to shoot me. It’s like I made my choice and you made yours now be happy with it. But Sabine at the end of it all, no one like to be lonely. Life is like a circle and it always comes back to the same point. I’m just glad I didn’t make the mistake of finding out the hard way. I was like that once upon a time, wanted to conquer the entire world, but that was because I saw no other way to get respect. All it took was just for one person to give me unconditional respect and that was more than enough. Michael also needed something like that, it only takes just one person. People who are power hungry and want to climb the so called ‘Great Heights” I think that is something lacking within them. I would say this applied to Joe, there was something that was far more important to him than being just a regular father like everyone else, that he sacrificed having all those golden moments that would have meant the world to Michael.
One day my husband started teasing our daughter that “mummy is gonna go to work” and she started crying and saying “no mummy don’t go”. Then one day he asked our daughter “will you be my friend like you’re with mummy”. You know what she said “no…I’m only mummy’s friend, because daddy you go to work”. Of course she loves him alot and when he’s home on the weekends she’s stuck to him like a leech and mummy is nowhere in her radar, LOL!!!
It worked Gracie!!! Yay, that’s a big piece — I’ll leave the link, because when I tried to post it, you could only see the corner where I took a bite
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Hey MGirl!!!!
Sonia, I don’t know about other men, but whenever I have left my children in their father’s care, I come back and the children, basically watched themselves!!!
LOL Gracie!!!!!
You go Girl!!!!!
okay, I’m rollin’ now…here’s what it looked like before the party!
mmmm..glad you liked it Sabine. You know, I did the math and this was the 27th birthday cake I have made! Some women might not appreciate that but dammit, I am PROUD!
Sabine, when I leave Daddy with the kids, they are happy but they are rarely clean or fed and the house is always a disaster!! he is really more like another kid and TERRIBLE with diapers! :lol:
CAKE! CAKKKKKKKKKKE!
I am not a big fan of chocolate cake – but damn that looks good.
Gimmie, gimmie…
so I have had my Monday Sour Apple Martini and I am ready to share my cell phone ring tone story…
lemme just get another tini and some cake and I will brb!