20
Aug
2010
Touched by God!
Michael was touched by God and persecuted by Man but honored by Us,his fans.
"He's an extraordinary young man, very much NOT of this world. You know why he loves children? Not because he's a pedophile. You know why he loves animals; not because he's crazy. But he see's in children no guile, no deceit; they come not with a game to Michael. They love Michael and Michael loves them. And he feels at home with children because he's non-threatened. ********************************
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"So long as men can breathe, or eyes can see, So long lives this, and this gives life to thee." W. Shakespeare
"----->His intelligence is instinctual and emotional, like a child’s. If any artist loses that childlikeness, you lose a lot of creative juice. So Michael creates around himself a world that protects his creativity”. ~ Jane Fonda
Oh this is so beautiful Sabine! You have to email me the pic up at top PLEASE! I think that is the most beautiful picture I've ever seen of him. Wow I'm speechless!
I sent it to you!!!!
Michael was so kind, but I wish he wasn't so obsessed with kids his whole life, it got him in so much trouble. If Michael had done something like what Usher is doing know, with his New Look Foundation, working with the youth and helping them become successful young men and women from a distance, instead of bringing them into his home to have sleepovers etc. This would have been a great plan for Michael, he could have helped kids and prepared them for the future. Michael had his Heal the World Foundation, but it's not just about giving money it's about having a plan for the future, and knowing where the money is going. I have so much respect for what Usher is doing, and I wish Michael had taken the same approach.
I knew when I put up this video it would not get much response, or if so not much positive response because of the topic of the video . . . . interesting response to this video, Colette.
I, for one, am glad that Michael was EXACTLY the way he was, with regard to children, especially the sick and deprived, and what I wish is that the world were different, that they didn't project their ugliness onto people trying to do good, and because they are not doing the same, try to tear them down.
There was absolutely nothing wrong with how Michael was, the blame was in the people who just didn't understand him, and painted him with the ugly brush of judgmentalness and critism.
I always think it's funny that none of the people who criticise Michael for the "sleepovers" talk about the parents who abandoned their children to Michael's care. Had they been more responsible, there would have been no room for speculation.
You know, it takes a very big heart and trusting soul to open your home and your life to those who are in need. And it is much more risky than working from a distance.
What Michael created with Neverland was special, and that he chose to share it with so many people is a testament to his amazing generosity.
I understand that not many people GET this, but just think of it this way: How many people would you INVITE into your home?
I think what Usher is doing is great and fine for him, and it's not fair to compare, since Usher is who he is and Michael was who he was. And I don't see any need for Michael to have changed so that the world could accept him -- it's the world that needs to change.
Usher's focus is on working with the young and helping them achieve their goals as you put it "from a distance". Michael's focus was in tapping into that inner child that we all have and helping that inner child heal, helping it express itself, and not from a distance, where its safe, but right up front and close and personal.
And you know what? When you do that, people get scared. The only thing that I do wish, is that Michael had better boundaries, so that when the people who were in his home began acting shady or tried to manipulate him and take more than he was willing to give, after he'd given soooooooooooooo much, I wish he had it in them to show them straight to door.
Well, he did do that, with the Arvisos, and they tried to "get" him back. That's what happens sometimes when you try to help people.
I do not invite people I don't know into my home. I also would not invite a child to stay over at my house, It would make my life hell, and I would be accused of all kinds of things just like Michael. Michael had no boundaries and that's what I'm talking about, he shouldn't have had sleepovers that doesn't do anything but make you look strange and suspecious, we all know Michael had good intentions, but he wasn't thinking clearly. Michael shouldn't have opened up his home at all, for people to live there, that's already going too far and asking for trouble.
Collete, that's you. I know you're not suggesting that Michael should have lived his life according to what you think it, right?
I agree with you that Michael had bad boundaries, but I understand why, so I don't judge him for it.
until that jerk pressed those charges in 93, noone had a problem with mike having the kids at the ranch. i think i was a bunch of hooey set up to bring him down cuz he started to have lot of power. everybody loved him till that crap happened. that's all im gonna say.'touched by God" i like that. good work.
I agree Deb -- Michael said it himself, as soon as he became the no. 1 artist in the world, as soon as he started breaking records and as soon as he got his hand on the Beatles catlogue, THEN there was a problem!!!!
I don't think he was obsessed with children, I think he was constantly seeking God's face by being with children. I think he never stopped seeking his face. Not too many people understand what that term really means.
Heya Gemm, it's true that not many people understand that type of spirituality, and because they don't understand it, they try to down it
Anyway, this is a positive post and I don't want to be criticizing Michael and fighting about his choices. They were his choices, good or bad -- he's gone now, we only can try to understand why he made them. No need to condemn a man who's gone.
Amen Sabine, I think this is a beautiful post of him....most definitely positive. I LIKE IT! I love videos like this. He loved to entertain, but also love to help heal the world. God blessed this man, and in return Michael gave back....His actions spoke louder than words.
It's refreshing to hear and read, Gemm -- you're beautiful, inside and out!!!!
I just had the misfortune of reading a little "fan fic" about Michael -- portraying him as a cheater/liar/user -- and what is the point of that? There were comments that went something like "I like THIS Michael" or things to that effect.
It seems to me that some people would rather that Michael had NOT been as sweet, as nice, and as good as he was but only so that they don't have to feel lacking in comparison -- so that they can better relate to him.
There was also another "I screwed Michael, and I'm a fan" story someone sent me. The woman said point blank, I'm going to DESTROY your image of an "angelic" Michael, so that you know that Michael was a normal guy who cheated on his wife and had sex with his fans.
The stories seem to always be the same and have almost a cruel intention to it. Like I said, I think that's the reason, to "normalize" Michael and make him more like the rest of us.
But what's the truth Gemm?
HE WASN'T LIKE THE REST OF US, HE WAS SPECIAL!!!!
I can see if Michael gave any indication of being this way when he was alive, but he did not. So why write him like that?
It's slander!!!!!!!!
Michael was normal in many, many ways, I'll be the first to say that, but in many ways he was NOT normal, he was above-normal, and yes, BETTER.
If Michael had made decisions the way I would have concering bringing kids into his room, and people living there and just NOT do that he would be better off, and may even still be alive right now, he wouldn't have been extorted from in 1993 and there would have been no trial in 2005, and Michael wouldn't have gone through hell.
But he wouldn't have been Michael, Collete -- he would have been you.
So I'm happy to have had Michael
It's a mistake to think that you can control/predict the behaviors of others by changing yourself; that's not true. Michael was the most sued artist ever, people sued him for nonsense. There's a number of women running around saying he slept with them and fathered their children -- he's not even here anymore. Michael didn't "make" those people extort him -- they did that because they were evil. He could have never invited them to Neverland, and they would have tried another way if that's what they had in mind.
Anyway, this video is NOT about that. Any comment on the video and Michael's direct and very positive contributions to the progress of race relations in America.?
See this is where I see the deterioration of the human mind, I never thought Michael was a sleeze bucket, that screwed every vagina that walked his way. To portray him that way in a fanfic is disgusting period. We live in a fallen world it's war between good and evil. To want to destroy someone's "angelic" image is EVIL. That person is NO better if not worse than the people who accused him of molestation. SO basically they are saying it's NORMAL to be a LYING, CHEATING, USER???? It's not ok to be a gentleman? To have decency and respect for females?
SO if I was a 31 year old virgin does that mean I need to become a prostitute or someone pop my cherry in order to be "normal" or like the rest of the world?
Obviously it's NOT normal to be angelic, it's not normal to say or do the right thing.
The comment about destroying the image of angelic Michael just made my stomach turn I'm sorry.
People's minds and hearts aren't in the right place at all....that is very disturbing to me. People like that you stay far away from
I think, unfortunately, that is EXACTLY what that person was saying!!!!!
To them a normal man cheats, lies, and uses women for sex.
I agree w/ everything you've said, and after I read that woman's "story" about her imaginary encounter w/ Michael, my whole spirit was disturbed!!!
I think people don't realize that a "star" who sleeps with his fans is USING THEM FOR HIS OWN SEXUAL GRATIFICATION -- there's nothing romantic about it!!! They don't go on to have relationships with these women. And maybe the reason why fan fics like that are so popular is because the truth is the readers who like them just wanted to use Michael, too.
I don't know because I just don't get it . . .
I soooooo agree with you that IMO, there is no difference then the Arvisos and the Chandlers or the media for that matter, if a person writes lies about Michael, malicious, negative lies, and pretend it's the truth (speaking of that woman who said she was a fan and slept with Michael). I think portraying a man as spiritual as Michael, a man who had the utmost respect for his fans, as a womanizer is beyond malicious and negative.
He really was
and always will be!!!!
Sabine... you are right.
The world needed to change and still does. Not Michael. And he never did change. It's one of the reasons I love him so much.
Yes, Frodes I really admire the strength it took. The world said, Michael, conform for me, make me feel comfortable, and Michael said, NO! I'm going to stay true to myself
I would have done anything to stop Michael from letting kids into his room or having anyone live at Neverland, I would have made it my full time job to make sure he was steered in the right direction. It makes me so fustrated, I can't stand seeing someone go down and be destroyed when they could have easily prevented it. Michael could have helped kids and interacted with them in other ways why did they have to be in his room???? Michael had people around him making him believe he could do no wrong, that's what contributed to his downfall, just people who want to please him, tell him what he wants to hear, I HATE that. Michael needed to be told the truth.
I would have been honest with Michael, and as much as it would hurt me to hurt his feelings, I would do it in a heartbeat because in the end it would be worth it, he needed to be brought back down to Earth at times and stop living in a fairtale world that doesn't really exist, he sure got a dose of reality when 1993 happened, but what poisions me is he learned NOTHING and did it all over again. uggggh it kills me
Colette, you just don't understand Michael. The last thing he would have wanted was someone telling him what to do -- no self-respecting adult wants that, and if you would have done that, he would have fired you from his life like he did so many other people. He had enough of that crap with Joe!
Michael wasn't a child who needed to be told do this, do that, do it like this or that.
He was an adult.
Adults should be allowed to make their mistakes so they can learn from them, that's why we're here. When you have kids you'll understand.
The hardest thing to do is watch your child messing up and not be able to stop them or prevent the consequences that you can clearly see around the corner, but as my kids grew up, it became very clear to me that they were intent on doing things THEIR way.
Did I counsel and advise them -- do I still?
Of course, but I'm their mother, and even as their mother, when they're arguing with me tooth and nail, I say, Okay, do what you want -- you'll see.
Why?
Because they are becoming young adults, and I respect them. However long it takes for them to learn a lesson is what it will take. I can't take the lesson for them.
If you approached Michael like that :
all you would be showing him is that you didn't respect him.
Who are YOU to tell Michael what he needs, really? A perfect stranger saying, this is how you should live your life.
I, a perfect stranger for all intents and purposes, am telling you you need to get over yourself -- and I know how you're going to react!!!!
Michael, who lived in a closet of adulation needed some escapism. You weren't the one stuck in a hotel room all day and unable to leave. Did you ever get mobbed going to a store? Don't tell Michael he needed to stop living in a fairytale world. Maybe if he could have gone and sat in a park, he would have taken the kids to a playground. He couldn't so he created his own playground, and let the kids come join him there. And they WANTED to come, and they followed him EVERYWHERE -- you would have too!
And if Michael told you, you can watch a movie in here with me, you wouldn't have hesitated, and if you fell asleep in his room and he didn't ask you to leave, you would have cuddled up next to Michael and had the best sleep of your life!!!!!!!!
The real world aint all it's cracked up to be -- that's why so many people are here!
Michael was lonely -- he wanted company, and adults can be really fVcked up, judgmental, intolerant, controlling -- I can see why he wouldn't have wanted to hang out with them
Who are you to say he didn't learn anything?
You have no idea what was going on in Michael's mind of head! Sounds to me like you have some issues YOU need to get over, your frustration and poison and hate -- believe me, Michael is over it.
He's not even thinking about that any more.
When you have something positive to add to the conversation, Colette, let us know
I'm not just telling him what to do I'm saving his life essentially, I'm preventing him pain and heartache. That's really immature firing someone who is only tring to help you because they won't tell him what he wants to hear or do what he wants even if it's destructive, that's a spoiled celebrity brat. Michael wasn't really an adult because he didn't want to grow up, so he was like I'm going to do whatever I want, which is wrong. Adults should learn from their mistakes but Michael didn't learn from his, he kept doing the same things that got him in trouble and made his life hell. How can you watch someone just fall apart and NOT do anything? mabye if it's something silly like getting a tounge ring or tattoo, but not taking drugs or driving drunk or something horrible, you can't just let them do that and be like "you'll see"!!!!!!!!. I could never do that. I would have told Michael how it is in the real world, help him make better decisions.
I can understand why Michael did some things but that doesn't make it alright.
It doesn't mean I don't respect Michael because I told him to come back to reality, I'm helping him and saving him pain in the future, tellling him how the world really works and to protect yourself, there are other ways to help people. Children have parents and those parents instill in them bad or good things and these kids were following a plan all along and Michael didn't realize that.
If Michael wanted the fame to stop he could have stopped releasing music after Thriller, he didn't need any more money and he certainly didn't have anytthing else to proove. He could have stayed in Ireland in that big castle, it was in the news recently, did you hear about it? well, Michael was getting healthy and he was happy there with his kids and there were lots of nice people, but he left because he craved the spotlight. He wants to be the greatest Entertainer of all time and then he wants to be normal, you can't have your cake and eat it too. Michael made the decision to stay in the spotlight.
Michael didn't learn anything because in 2005 he was accused of molestation AGAIN he invited another WHACK family to live at his house, spend his money and let the kids sleep in his bedroom, just like in 1993 , an exact repeat, he didn't go through enough the first time?? he had to put himself through even more??? Michael let kids and bloodsuckers in his life AGAIN. he wouldn't help himself.
Michael is at peace I'm happy about that, I feel like someone else would accuse Michael again if he pulled off all the O2 shows, all that money he would have made there would have been no end to the lawsuits and rumours, MJ won't have to go through that, so I'm glad.
Colette, its so co-dependent I'm not even laughing:
No one asked you. Put your cape back in the closet and worry about helping your ownself. One thing you can do is work on not being so judgmental.
Michael had every right to do whatever he wanted to do with his own life. It's not your place or anyone elses to set up shop trying to "save him". Like I said, that's co-dependent.
What - ever
He was an adult who made a choice to be very youthful, so what. Who set you up as judge and jury? Oh, yeah, it's self appointed 
You're young, life is going to show you EXACTLY how you can watch a person self destruct and be powerless to stop it. We only have power over our own lives, and what we choose to do, none of us, including YOU can MAKE anyone do anything. Learn it now, the easy way, or learn it the hard way. Your choice. You can't help anyone who doesn't want to be helped, no. 1.
No. 2, it's really arrogant to set up shop trying to help someone when you are just as fVcked up as they are -- what I mean by that is we all have our issues. I'm sure Michael could have helped you be less intolerant and judgmental, but I know you would have resisted him, just as he would have resisted your "help" (that he didn't ask for) of him.
No one asked you if it was all right or not. I don't understand why you feel the need in this positive thread to instead talk about all the things you feel Michael did wrong, instead of talking about what he did right.
Really, what's your problem?
News flash, Michael wasn't a child, and you are not his parent.
Blah, blah, blah. Michael did what he wanted to do. I know all about his stay in Ireland. You don't know what his reasonings were for leaving or even coming there for that matter, you were not living his life.
Michael wanted to be successful in his craft, there's nothing wrong with that. What's wrong is the world that took him and chewed him up and spit him out, lifting him up when they were in a good mood, and tearing him down when they felt like being nasty, a world that wouldn't leave him the hell alone and who think they have the moral right to judge him like they were really any better.
You are sounding so judgmental right now, it's not even funny. But I'm not surprised, 'cause it seems like every few weeks you gotta go there, Colette!
And your point is? Lots of people make the same mistakes over and over again until they get it. Did he do it again after 2005, nope. There you go.
I'm glad you're glad he's in peace. Why don't you leave him there, and stop attacking his memory?
Maybe not but my two cents are free, and I will share it whenever I like, if Michael had worried about helping himself more he wouldn't have been in so much trouble. Michael wanted to help people, so will I. I take good care of myself thanks. I'm telling you what I would do if I was in his life and was in a position to help, I wouldn't just agree with him and say what he wanted to hear I would be truthful and real. There are people who are judgmental but not me, just honest.
He can be youthful all he wants ( and I like that about him) but could he have done that without bringing kids into his bed???? he crossed the line, not meaning to but it's crazy to me that he would bring kids in his room, he never once thought, "people are going to start saying things, and I could get into shit for this" I hurts that he had to go through all that just to learn that you shouldn't bring kids into your room.
I may not be able to stop him or whoever you don't know that I couldn't but I would try nonstop and not just sit back and watch, I don't do that. Some pople are too quick to give up on others and I wouldn't give up on Michael.
It's pretty clear why he was there, to have peace and quiet and record music. Will i.AM came there to work with Michael.
I agree. other artists don't have it half as bad as Michael, no one brings up Britney's troubles anymore and I think Gaga could get away with whatever she wants because she's white, that's how I feel about it. Gaga admitted to occasional cocaine use, and no one blinked an eye, if Michael had said that, they would be looking to press charges, it makes me sick.
I hope to God he wouldn't have gone back to his old ways, it took 10 years from 1993 to 2003 for it to happen again. This isn't some little mistake it's his life at steak, and why was it so hard for him to stop bringing kids over for sleepovers?? why did he need to do that? after the first time what happened smh
Your two cents may be free, but your judgment is costly, not to me mind you. But to yourself.
Matthew 7:1-2
1Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
Romans 2:1
You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge the other, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.
Really, I have to ask, and you haven't answered:
What is your problem????
Why do you feel the need in this positive thread to harp on what YOU believe Michael did wrong, when the man is gone?
What are YOU getting out of this conversation?
No, you are judgmental, and like most judgmental people you can't see it, because you think your judgment is right and that you have the right to tell other people how to live their lives. You don't, and you won't make many friends acting that way.
You say you take good care of yourself, but I have a hard time believing that, it's not taking good care of yourself to be so contentious.
Once again, what is your purpose in bringing this up right here? What are you trying to do, feel good on Michael's back about how moral you are, and how YOU wouldn't have made the mistakes he made? Why do you feel the need to harp on this? Because it HURT YOU that he had to go through that?
So this is all about making you feel better?
Control masked as helped is not help, it's just that control. You know who you sound like?
Joe.
Insisting he begged his wife to help get their son into rehab for an alleged prescription pill addiction, Joe says the final straw came when the pair saw their son laying on a mortuary table.
"I said, 'If you had listened to me Michael would be living now!' I kept thinking about the times I had stood in front of her saying something was wrong," Joe told NOTW. "Katherine didn't say a word -- I had to get away from her. If she'd done what I asked, Michael would be here today. I am incensed with her. She could have made a difference."
Joe Blames Wife for Michael's Death
Joe is so fucked up, he's in no position to talk about helping anyone. Michael wouldn't want him anywhere near him, that's why he complained to Katherine about "helping" him, but the real work Joseph needed to do was repair the damaged relationship he had with his son. Indirectly, Joseph is very responsible for what happened to Michael because he is the source of much of Michael's emotional turmoil.
First of all you're not a mind reader, so nothing is pretty clear. You know people can have more than one reason for doing things. Your point, if there is one, is invalid.
Have you missed that you are doing the exact same thing to him? Lets put a microscope on your life and look at everything you've done wrong, and judge you for it. I would love to see how much of it you'd be able to stand before you break. Lady Gag
and Brittney have nothing to do with this conversation.
The question you asked is a good one. Spend some time trying to UNDERSTAND Michael, and maybe you won't have time to criticize him so much.
As for your hope to God that he wouldn't have done it again, well he's not, is he? He won't be doing anything here on this Earth again. None of his many good works and the stuff you are choosing to concentrate on.
I don't see how I'm judging Michael, I'm letting out my feelings and fustrations that's all. I take great care of myself and I think twice before I act,
if that's too contentious like you say then whatever lol, I'm not hurting anyone and I'm not hurting myself. I can have my thoughts and express them about Michael whether postitve or negative because there was both in Michael's life. I understand some things Michael did but it's crazy what he had to go through to learn a lesson, I can't stand watching someone be so naieve and careless.
Colette, you keep stating you can express yourself -- it's true, and I'm happy to let you do it because any time I wanted to I could delete your comments.
We're not your trash can for you to vent your frustrations to, especially while we're trying to remember Michael and all the good he did.
And really, um,
what kind of person does that, vents their frustrations all over and in the midst of other people who are trying to remember someone w/ love?
Just as I wouldn't let you trash my dead brother in the middle of my living room, I have a big problem with you talking down about Michael on this thread and in this place, which is why I'm challenging you on it.
Once again, what is your problem? What is your point?
I'm not trashing Michael, I'm talking about stuff that really happened, not rumous I'm not gossiping or slandering Michael, I don't see what your problem is, you tell me to try to understand Michael well how can I if I can't express my concerns and questions and be talked to without being accused of "trashing" him, or being judgemental? Michael is dead and we remember the positives but that doesn't erase the negatives or the questions that many still have.
Thank you Sabine for sharing this with us, I just wish videos Like this would reach out to the people who don't get it and who don't WANT to get it. There are too many people who just flat out refuse to believe that Michael only had the world's best interest in his heart. They will never be able to open up their eyes and enjoy his loving smile, or open up their ears and hear his loving voice, to open up there minds and understand him and exchange loving knowledge. But I pitty most that they will never be able to open up their hearts and feel his love and return it for what it is truly worth.
I love you and what you do, Michael,
and I love what you do Sabine, Thank you both for sharing your love<3
~bless
Uana!!!!
It really means a lot to hear. There's a time and a place for everything, and I think some people are just intent on spreading their negativity when it is just not called for.
Michael wasn't about that -- he was about spreading love!!!!!! And I suppose it's like if we speak Spanish and the other person speaks Japanese -- they cannot understand; they don't understand and no matter how much it's explained, they will not understand.
How hard is it to understand that you don't start speaking about someone's horrible accident in the middle of a birthday celebration!!! It's rude!
Doesn't mean that there's anything wrong with sharing your feelings about how the accident affected you, how terrible you thought it was, how injured the people were -- it means it's not the time or the place!!!
It means a lot to me personally when I hear that other people GET IT!!!! Thank YOU!
I agree that's it's not a good time to be talking about the incidents, his birthday is almost here, Michael should be celebrating with us.
No, no, nooooo, no crying. Only if it's happy tears!!! Let's celebrate his life and all the good, wonderful things that he did to make this world a better place, for you and for me
I always have mixed feelings when I see this kind of videos. But I really can't help the crying... I know it sounds ridiculous (to say the least) ugh how do I say this?
I can feel this empty space ever since he left 
Well, no one is going to fill those size 13s, so it's natural to feel that way