28
Sep
2010
Will There Be Another Chapter?
Honestly, I've considered not writing anymore.********************************
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"----->His intelligence is instinctual and emotional, like a child’s. If any artist loses that childlikeness, you lose a lot of creative juice. So Michael creates around himself a world that protects his creativity”. ~ Jane Fonda
Hi Sabine!
If you feel that writing these stories is taking you in a direction that you don't want things to go I'd say do whatever makes you feel better about and stop writing if that's what you need to do. Do what you WANT to do since you said you're not sure if what you're doing is what you want to do! I think no matter what the addicts here say, it's your feeling so you have to decide.
I can only speak for myself but I never felt that you are reducing Michael to an object or that the sex is the most important part of the story. It's part of it, yeah, but I would be totally fine if there wasn't a love making paragraph in every single chapter! Like I said, I almost love the little moments more than the actual sex scenes! And I told you right from the beginning that what amazed me so about CM was the fact that you made Michael so real, it was crazy!
The sex was just an exciting bonus since I had never heard about or read fanfiction that involves Michael, I never thought it works but you made it work. It's not fanfiction, it's...I don't know, there's no word for it really, it has to yet be invented!
And the sexy scenes are fun and exciting and they can make you horny!
But to me, this is all FUN! It's the emotional scenes in which you present your understanding of Michael that impressed me the most and kept me reading till 3 in the morning. And now that I know you a little bit better I can say for sure that you're not this kind of person you're afraid to become!!! I know that you care deeply about Michael, the man, his personality and what he had to go through and that you're thinking a lot about that! So, I think that this is all in your head and heart rather than in your readers' and I hope you can figure out what to do about it. I would be very sad if you stopped writing forever but I can understand if you want to take a break from it.
Hey Cherry, well thanks for weighing in on the subject and sharing your thoughts! I appreciate it.
No, I don't really think it's in my head that some people read just for the sex!!!!!
I think the sexy scenes are fun and exciting too. I'm happy to write them. I don't know how you'd feel though if there were NO sex scenes, though you might be okay with not one in every chapter!!!!
I would never stop writing forever! I've always written, all my life, I just wouldn't write this story. But I have a thousand stories in my head at all times!!!!
Of course I'll figure out what to do, that's the whole point of talking about it!
No, I meant what's in your head is the feeling that you are reducing Michael to an object by writing this story. Me, personally, I don't feel that this is what you're doing or that the most important thing is the sex. I guess you don't believe me but that's how it is. And if you're happy to write those scenes then all is good, isn't it?
You don't know if I was okay without any sex? Are you serious? Well, try me!
) then I'm looking forward to anything else you write, I will read it. 
If you stop writing this story, which I don't hope, (and also TTWC - I mean, you just CAN'T stop at this point, please!
Cherry, I do believe you. Thanks for sharing your thoughts again.
Okay, maybe I'm not being clear. Let me try again.
My feeling that Michael is being reduced to an object or my fear that he is, is not based on some internal feelings of guilt -- I just want to make that clear. I don't have any guilty feelings about what I've written, because I know my intention and where my heart is.
I'm concerned though, that the story is not being received with the intention with which it's being written. So I wanted to once again share my intention
Hope I'm making myself clear!
Hi Sabine. Whether or not you keep writing is probably a very personal issue. I don't think you do it for the accolades. I feel your reasons are intimate. I have always felt that these stories been beneficial to me because Mike is able to find the love he deserved and ( maybe) the family he so longed for. I have enjoyed the whole series and Love the Tame the wild Cobra series the best. I enjoy the escapism. It brings levity to my humdrum day.Well,as long as you are happy with your decision and have no regrets. whatever you decide. I would like to thank you for all you have given and put up with. Thanks again!!
Hi Mel!!!!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
It's comments like this that will help me see if my message or my intention is being received!!!! At least by those who can receive it. I'm not naive. I recognize that not everyone is interested or even looking for the same thing!
But why do I feel like everyone is saying goodbye?!?!?!
I don't WANT to stop writing!
I LIKE writing the story and I like sharing the story -- oooops, stories!!!
I just don't want CCC to be viewed as some kind of Michael Porno site!
Hi Sabine!
I totally agree with Cherry´ s comment here!!!
I told you that I love all the sex scenes in your CM-Story very, very much!!! It is a part of why you have us addicted here ;-) BUT let me assure you, that is not nearly the most important issue and reason for me to read your Stories! It is simply the way you create this almost real world with using all the "facts" we know about Michael so we can even understand him better sometimes and his different kinds of behaviour at some points. The way you tell the stories is amazing! You give us the feeling that we know him personally and that feels so good! I truly hope he did have some good times like CM in his life but I think at least a few :)
I admire your ability to write all these many chapters of CM and also the TTWC-Story! I never thought I would be interested in reading "fanfiction" but you made it different because of the connection to reality with all the many details you´re using! It is really exciting, very emotional and of course also hot to read. I am aware of your intention and appreciate that you share all your stories with us! I would love to read more of BBM as well as TTWC, even without the great sex-scenes^^. It is so much fun and as you already said: ESCAPISM!!! I love it and hope you´ll go on writing, if that is what you want to do. Because you are so talented I think and told you before, I would even buy your literature if it was published :) I don´t think your intention is misunderstood here but I also think it is a good think to talk about that if it worries you.
So feel free to tell us more about Mike and Sabah, Saniia, Tatiana, Melissa, Lisa etc...I am a big fan of yours! You changed my world in a way and I thank you so much for that! DON´T STOP TIL YOU GET ENOUGH! :)
LOVE Amelie
I'm almost falling asleep, dead tired as I am, but after reading your thoughts, I just have to give you mine.
I struggled with the same feelings. I honestly did. I told you before that I write fanfiction myself. It's posted at michaeljackson.com and at the moment quite succesful too. But I struggled with the same issues. And I mean struggled as in past time. Don't get me wrong, sometimes it still comes up in my head to just stop writing about the sexy parts too because he was not just a sex symbol. He was a man of flesh and blood. A man, a genius, a creator. And I honestly believe that all he wants us to do is be creative in any way we can. I'm very very sure that from wherever he is right now, he is looking down on us and approving of what we do. And you know why ? Because it goes much much further than Cowboy Mike of Prince Michael or whatever character we invent for him. It's all about creation and reaching out to each other, touching each others souls, each others senses.
I cannot tell you how much Michael meant to me and how much his death influenced me. When he died, I felt like my youth was taken away. I've known him for almost 40 years as we are of the same age. Before he died I just followed the music, nothing more nothing less, like millions of others. I was a fan, but not fanatically because that's not who I am. But after he died, I searched the internet for all kind of information about him and that's how I stumbled right into the stories. I didn't know this still excisted and were posted on the internet. I wrote my first fanfic when I was about 15 or 16 years old. Just one. Nothing more. At the time I wrote some other short love stories, all very innocent of course. I never kept them and when I met my first husband I stopped writing. I lost my ability, my innocence, my drive.
And then I came to the forum of michaeljackson.com and I met all these wonderful people. And that's just what Michael wanted to happen : that we would all join together from all over the world and share whatever we had to share. In my case a story. A story of how I thought his life should have been, a fantasy, a fairytale, nothing realistic except for what I know about him. That he was a gentle soul, a true genius, a lover, a very sexy man. Whilst writing my story, I slowly regained my youth. Michael gave me back my imagination, my feeling of being a woman. And he gave me a lot of love. I give it back to him through my story.
And I know for sure, Sabine, that he is looking over our shoulder when we write. He may blush a little when we let our imagination run wild but he approves of what we do. Because we do it with love.
And take this from me, your story has never ever been in any way disrespectful. If it had been, I would not have followed you for so long. You have an amazing talent and wasting that would be a sin. So if Michael makes you write like this, it means you should keep going.
With all the love in the world,
Ingrid
Hi Shamone!!! Love that name.
Well, thanks for taking the time to reply. I would never know what other people are thinking if I don't ask, and I think some of the people who enjoy the stories for other reasons might be less verbal than our more excited addicts
Thanks so much for this, this is very important for me to read:
I suppose that's what's most important to me, that people are aware of my intention, whether they agree or not is fine, and anyone can read and get whatever they want outta the stories, but I want my intention to be clear
thanks for understanding. It was starting to worry me a bit but you, Cherry and Mel have done a lot to help alleviate that concern!!!!
Now I can concentrate on more important things, like how I'm going to get Sabah's legs to go around Michael's . . . . .
Just kidding!!!!!
Thanks again Amelie/Shamone! I enjoyed reading your comment so much!
Hey Sabine after reading what you had written up above I just had to comment. Sabine I'm sure you know this by now but we all respect you because you have a wonderful talent and you are just plain gifted!! Now don't think for one second that you are using Michael as a sex symbol because we all know that thats not the case. Its very comforting to read about Mi ke and how you could imagine him in everyday situations. Like I said before its just comforting and entertaining and not degrading in any shape or form. I just appreciate the stories for one and just think maybe some of us would never read if we hadn't found your blog LOL! All in all your a great writer and I would love for you to continue writing without feeling guilty or having any doubts. *Smooches*
It's stated that he human brain cannot distinguish between a real experience or an imagined one.
I say that to say this.... the main reason why I love these stories is because it allows me think of Michael in a way his real life didn't. From what I know, he didn't really have a love all his own, someone to make him complete, his own real live soulmate. And as weird as it sounds I want that for him, I want him to be happy and, aside from his children, I think that is the one thing that would have done that.
So these stories provide that for me. I can look back and think about Michael with Sabah, happy and complete and in love.
It looks like you've decided what you will do, and that's fine. But please understand that what you've given us already is simply amazing. So amazing that I wish it could've been real life and Mike would probably feel the same way.
And I'm really the last person you want to ask about whether or not you should continue, because I have started many a story only to be bored with it halfway through to where it just falls by the wayside.
Dear Sabine,
I just finished reading these comments here and I agree with all of them and I understand well your point. I can truly feel a huge amount of L-O-V-E in your stories, how you describe every little move of his heart and mind. We can't really say in an assuming way that we had come to know him for real, but through what we know, from what we've seen in all the videos and interviews since he was a child, from all the lyrics he wrote and sang and from all we know from his loyal friends, by now we are all starting to make a quite realistic picture of his personality, his weakness and his lovely heart.
Your stories simply bring that character into life again and I understand your intention of imagining him as a real person and not only a distant personality, an icon without a tender sensitive soul that he had.
I 'felt' that soul long time ago in '88 when I was at his concert in my town in Italy... it is not something I can't explain in words but after seeing him and hearing his voice I also heard the hidden voice of his soul that was so energetic, positive and strong but also so vulnerable and lonely.
The possibility that some people 'hooked' here don't feel the way we feel about him is real. I've got to know some people like that but what can you do? You can find some people that are not empathic and understanding in every context of life. Here is the same. People that 'use' other people as objects are everywhere and most of the time we don't even realize it... But I do think that most people here (at least from what I have read until now) are not that kind. The others probably don't show up and never write comments... I can feel a great amount of true love, understanding and sometime concern in your discussions. Am I wrong?
I wrote only few lines once to compliment with you but I follow you when I want to relax and spend the night with my favorite hero, that is not a distant idealist prince of the tales but a real man who dedicated his life to entertain us and giving us joy and comfort with his music and beside that gave wise suggestions on how to respect Nature and try to do our best to bring a little bit of Heaven on Earth.
I 'miss him' and it is something paradoxical but it is real... In your stories his personality is back and sometimes I can escape from everyday worries with them. I also enjoy the sex scenes too and I enjoy to feel horny as hell... but what I feel for him is always Love and respect with a little mischievous look in my eye sometimes.
Lots of people now follow Michael's example and are inspired by his example so it is true that he's still much alive in his legacy that are ourselves. I am personally involved in different kind of activities to make him know better (with translations of videos and articles) and I join charity projects of two organization named in his honor in my city. I also translated all of Dancing the Dream in Italian, also the parts in rhyme without changing the meaning of one word. It was a long and lovely job but unfortunately another translation was published, with no poetry just plain prose without the emotional side.
I do also believe in the afterlife so I think he can feel all this Love that we are all sending and he is probably proud of us. He is now finally seen more as a average human as he wanted to be seen because death has this great quality of leveling all of us.
In the end, what you are doing Sabine, it is all for Love... so do what you feel is better for yourself.
If Michael can see you somehow, he can sees your heart. He is out of space and time and all the earthy negativity are nonsense for him by now. But I do understand well your scruple. In these cases it is useful to take sometime to reflect and that's what you are doing...
Anyway, this is a great site no matter what and I hope to find you here.
L-O-V-E always,
Isabeau
Thanks Ingrid for sharing your thoughts.
I certainly agree that Michael would love creativity and admire anyone who can create. I mean as an artist he would certainly get the drive that pushes a person to make something that is an expression of love and I've seen, from Michael's death, so many people turn their pain into expressions of love and that has been, for me, a beautiful thing to witness. I think Michael would be psyched about that!!!
Personally, though, for me, its a question of much more than is Cowboy Mike or Bad Boy Mike or Tame the Wild Cobra disrespectful. I really don't have the feeling that they are, because what is disrespectful about describing someone being in love?
For me the question I'm asking is am I in any way supporting promoting Michael as a sexual object, because I think THAT'S disrespectful. So thanks again for speaking to the subject and letting me know that you don't view CCC or the stories like that. I need to hear that!!!
I recognize this is a touchy subject! Ouch
I'm sooooooooooooooooooooo mindful that Michael did not like to be misrepresented and was so hurt by the media who painted a picture of him that wasn't inaccurate and so different from who he felt he was; I'm soooooooooooooooo so sensitive to the fact that Michael was used in his life by people who thought, what can I get outta him. It's something I would never, ever want to do to his memory.
I wanted to talk about this to see how people were viewing the site and the stories, thanks for letting me know
I forgot to say: sorry for my English!!!
And.... more compliments for your incredible talent...
Love,
Isabeau
Hey, I understand just what you mean, which is why I myself hesitate to write any fan fictions of Michael, and will instead be creating a blog about him as a person. With Michael I always focus on trying to straighten out the many controversies that have been baselessly created about him, the largest one being his sexuality. I think that it's good that you are showing that there WAS that side of him, and the way that you are able to show how Sabah notices the other more important sides of him helps to balance things out. Like in out first chapter of BBMike, how she realizes the compassion he feels to help others. I love to hear stories aobut little things that he's done or accounts from fans or children in hospitals. I feel that Michael was very much an enigma and contradicted himself a lot. The contrasts between his stage persona and shier self. The way that he could be forceful and at times selfish with his career, but so giving to others too.
If I have any problems with your story, it's just that I'm unsure about your thoughts on his plastic surgery. Personally, I believe that it was greatly exaggerated, and other than the cleft in his chin was reduced to only on his nose. All those stories we here about 17 and 40 and 50 nose jobs is awful [I know you don't think it was that severe]. I do think he definitely had issues with his appearance, but I see less than five actual rhinoplasties and then whatever touch-ups he may or may not have had.
All in all, it's your story and I advise you to do what you feel is right. I love your story and the realisticness of it. I feel guilty reading other fanfictions at times when they don't portray Michael as he was. If I'm going to read anything fictitious about him I'd want it to be as close to the real Mike as possible; that's something that I'm able to experience here.
Just two more things:
I haven't read your Tatiana story and would love to
and I'd love to see more of MJ interacting with his family, especially Janet with Sabah.
Jasmine (Jazii)
Wow, Isabeau, that was beautiful, you really brought tears to my eyes and you really read my intention and meaning accurately!!!!
I love this part:
I think CCC is a real special place with wonderful people and I want to keep it that way!!!!
So no, I don't think you're wrong at all!!!! It's very true you meet all kinds in this walk called life, and really what can you do? But I think as long as I make it clear what my intentions are for this place, that's all that matters.
This is a truly a beautiful expression, and one that I share. Yes, Micahel is done with earthly concerns indeed and amen to that, I believe that to be true. But you see my dilema, huh? I am NOT done with Earthly concerns. I'm still here trying to make the best of it and do the best that I can, and be the best person I can be.
So thanks so much Isabeau!!!!!
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Hi Ladake!!!!
Awww,
Me tooo!!!!
Thank YOU for sharing how you view CCC and the stories, as I said, I wrote this post because I wanted feed back to see if my intention is being received well. I think it's good to reflect and see how am I contributing to the image that I'm portraying, to ask, more importantly, what is that image -- so that's what this is all about.
Ladake, girl, what do you mean:
Girl you might be wrong if you're thinking I've decided not to write anymore!!!!!
I might be more hooked than you guys are!
Don't worry, I hate when a good story starts to get WHACKEDDDDD -- so believe me, when things need to end, they will, but I'm not thinking it's now though!
I hope you don't think so yet!!!
P.S. Isbeau, I forgot to say: Your English is perfect!
And thank you, and everyone else, too, from the bottom of my heart for making me and this place a part of your life
Hi Jasmine!!!!
Yeah, I know Janet hasn't made it into my story yet, I'm not sure why that's true. I think it's cause I haven't "felt" her yet. When I do, I guess she'll appear!!!!
Re: Plastic surgery, to me, personally one, two, twenty, 100, doesn't matter.
I think what's important, for me, is the pain and the insecurity that drove Michael to have them, and that would be the same whether it was 1 or 20.
I'm happy to read so much feedback that CCC is not view as a place that is misrepresenting Micheal or reducing him to a sexual object. I really warms my heart, because I was, like I've said before, a bit worried.
Well, you guys know I love comments, and if anyone else wants to chime in here, the more the merrirer. It's really important for me to hear, I guess, that yes, yes, YES we love sexy, sexual Michael!!!!
But also that we see clearly the other sides of Michael too!
Thanks Jasmine!!!!
Your welcome
With lovee and peacee
My Dear Sabine,
I understand what you're feeling, and all I can say is "Write it how you feel it and the rest will fall into place".
If your heart is going in a different direction then by all means, please don't hesitate to follow it.
To be honest, I don't even remember the different chapters by the sex scenes. I remember them by what the characters went through or what was happening around them-the sex was just some extra icing.
Your stories gave us some of the stuff that missing about the man that either he and/or the media would never show us. It's fantasy & escapism which we know Michael LOVES, so please don't be so hard on yourself about objectifying him. I don't think he would feel that way. After all, he loved being a man of mystery and in no way are you showing him in a negative light. It's all in L.O.V.E.
I respect whichever way you decide to go. When it comes to Michael, those of us who love him on "another" level have to find a place in him where there's peace & if this isn't giving you that, then switch it up!
Sabine, you've brought us so much joy & comfort with these stories, that if you decided to keep the future chapters "clean", then that's no biggie. Do you.
Love You!!!
Neicccy!!! Awwww
You just made my heart smile big and wide, like this:
In the comment you left before mine, you stated now you can concentrate on more important things...
I meant you already decided to continue. So that's great!!!
Oh, okay Ladake!!!!! You got to use the smilies, otherwise you seem so serious!!!!
and edit: really thanks because all of you have helped me feel much better about the subject
Well Sabine, you did it! you got me in here on a school night! Honey, before I found your stories I had read the occasional fan fic, but i always felt bad afterward and thought it was so cheesy...but your stories are NOTHING like that! What you do is on another planet altogether because you DO write about Michael the whole person and in all honesty, even though I sometimes linger over the cobra scenes, that's not the BEST part of the story nor the reason for its existence. Its the love and all the emotions you create, the characters, the places we get to go that make it fun and exciting. I don't come here to see or read about Michael the icon or the sex symbol...i come here to feel closer to Michael the person and his spirit.
That said, however, if there comes a time you don't feel like writing anymore that's ok too...look how much yo have already given. I heard someone once say about Michael feeling he needed to top Thriller that no one asked DaVInci to do another Mona Lisa...i think that applies to you too. Your writing is beautiful becuase it's inspired...if you don't feel it you shouldn't write it . You already wrote your "Thriller" so you can hang it up any time you want! It will still be here for us to enjoy.
((((hugges)))) and kisses :kissing: :kissing:
Gracie, you never did school was going!!!! I'm honored -- no, hunored by your presense!!!!!
Now, you know if you girls, the most die hard addicts give me the thumbs up I can't hang up my pen and pad yet!!!!!!
I honestly needed some feedback and you guys have given me that and then some -- also I needed to hear other people's thoughts and not just my own, you know!
I love this:
Wow, that's so true, but I think all artists are driven!!!!
Muwwwwwahhhhh, luv ya Gracie :kissing:
@SABINE.....Don't leave me SABZ!!!!!
YOUR stories help get me through the day, bc I find myself having to recite "The Serenity" poem when I'm feeling down and out about MJ. I hope this doesn't sound crazy, but I've felt guilty myself over these past few months, asking myself, could I have been a cause of some of MJ's problems, and why would NOONE loved him for HIM, and NOT the KING OF POP. I say all this to say, I love MJ, and I'm still struggling to come to terms with HIM not being HERE (flesh). YOU stories however, bring a smile to my face, bc in them, I can see MJ as a MAN, not the KING OF POP, but a MAN with real emotions, issues, etc. like the rest of us, and I don't want it to end... 
Jeez Sabine.
I read the heading and i thought Whhaaattt?? there HAS to be another chapter! But truthfully i wouldn't want you to continue writing something you aren't comfortable writing anymore...
Now, i will say i truly adore this story and its NOT about the sex for me (though, it is a good addition- not gonna lie lol)
I feel like you've made Michael more... human. more of a person in my mind and less of an enigma. and for that i thank you. I deff never found it degrading so don't think that :(
We need more amazing MJ fanfics like these, so i think you should continue.... (even though this isn't about me....lol i can be a bit selfish- for give me)
HI Ms. Thang !!! HI Alisha!!!
Please believe me when I say that hearing from you guys means a lot to me. I need to get some insight from other voices as to what exactly the story means to them. Thanks for popping up and taking time out of your day to tell me!
I appreciate you guys so much!
Ms. Thang I do understand the feeling of having let Michael down!!!!! I struggle with that. Why didn't anyone help this man, and then why didn't I help him, so it's about that for me, too!!!
Alisha, thanks for saying I make Michael more human.
OMG! That's exactly the point! EXACTLY!
Sabine, in the end you must do what you feel is best for you. As a reader I never saw Michael as being used. You allowed him to live a life that maybe he did not have beyond the music. I truly hope I'm wrong in that aspect.. I hope he had love and felt it. As a reader, I say please dont stop. You have allowed us to have Michael again alive and so full of love. It feels good after losing him. I for one can't get enough of anything about him.
Michael for his entire life allowed us to eascape, dream, laugh, cry, scream and smile. Your stories have done the same thing. Dont stop.
HI sabs, this is deb, listen i dont really want you to stop writing and i actually dont want you to change a thing, i dont look at your sight as only sex, it is great reading with some sex to spice it up and it is like no other fanfiction i have ever read all over the net. it is original and it give michael life. sometimes a life he may have never had. it kept me going for the whole summer and it am literally devasted that you would even consider quitting on us. it is all i look forward to. i would have never been able to look at michael as a normal human being with all the other crap that was put out there, your stories helped me to see him in a different light and i even feel closer to him now. please dont stop writing and dont change the way you write. i truly love all of it and you. hugs (deb)
Sabine..
I am glad you started this topic.
I think every addict here on CCC looks at CM and PM with a different eye. Some might think of MJ as sex a symbol and some might not.
I think you always do an incredible job of bringing the REAL michael to life. I've always said that you bring him to life.
I love to read PM and CM b/c to me, they are LOVE stories, but not porn or anything.
And, i think some fans should really keep their XXX rated thought to themselves. I do NOT like to see or read pornographic stuff about Michael b/c to me, Michael was not a porn star.. he was a gentle human being, kind and sweet. that's the mj that i love. Sometimes it makes me sick when i see XXX rated pics of him. I understand that he was sexy and all but at the same time its disrespectful to downgrade him to something like a porn star. he was sooo much more than that..
I know Michael was a romantic person and there is no doubt in my mind that he would treat women with respect
Sabine,
If you feel like your stories are misleading mj's true character then do what is right..
I will miss your stories a lot and i will miss reading about true love
Hi Deb, Wendy and Elmira
You know it touches me to hear how much these stories mean to you guys. I really didn't know that --I mean you told me, a lot of the comments have said so, but I guess I really didn't think about it in depth.
I'm so glad to know that this place could be that part of the day that someone LOOKS FORWARD to -- I mean, there's no better feeling right?
Whether it's a person, place or thing . And I really GET THAT now, how these stories can keep Michael alive. So thanks for sharing these thougths with me!
Wow, this touches my heart, because THAT is truly my intention!!!!! Thanks!!!!
Thanks for saying this. I needed to hear that. I needed to hear that some readers at least were not seeing him as being "used"!!! Phewww. I mean like I said before it's okay if not all do; you'll never get everyone to agree but I'm glad to hear that some people GET me -- that's enough!!!
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Hi Elmira, OMG, I had to read that twice to make sure it was you!!!! You're usually so sweeeet,
But here you're kinda fiesty!!!
Randy would like that
Well, I hear you and I know where you're coming from. I've heard about some stories, and there were a few videos on YT and I was like
Not because I'm prudish or whatever, I mean I enjoy sex as much as the next person, but . . . . achhhh, I don't know.
I just think there's this thin, fine line, you know. And it's like walking a tight rope to know not to cross it.
No, i don't feel that my stories are misleading MJ's true character, in fact the intention of writing them was just the opposite but I wondered and I was scared that I might be contributing or fueling in some way a change of the meaning of the stories into it just being like a story about sex.
I don't know!!!!
I just had this horrible feeling . . . . but I feel a lot better now thanks to all of the great feedback/comments
Okay this is just a little joke, but I was thinking how funny it would be if I when I put up the next chapter it was like pure sex, from beginning to end.
You guys would be like:
Sabine wrote all that crap in this post and look!!!!
Sabine you are incredible writer I hope you know that we all appreciate and look forward to every story, you put your heart in it and I never for one moment felt like you were portraying Michael in a disrespectful way, it always felt like it came from a place with LOVE, it's escapism, magic it brings us all together and closer to Michael. I feel like you have given Michael the love that I have always wanted for him. The sex makes Michael more real, I hope he experienced that in his life and don't feel like you are overdoing it because your not there is only 1 or 2 in each story and everything flows so well, so it makes sense and it just feels right. We are "enjoying" Michael for the man he was, you write about the side of Michael that he kept private from the world, and I feel like I'm watching from behind a curtain, so thanks for all the great stories. I hope you don't change a thing because you've captured Michael perfectly!
I have to say I understand what you are saying and you have to do what you feel is best for you. I really enjoy the stories and have been reading them for a while. I would be telling a lie if I said that I did not like the sex scenes because Michael was/is a beautiful man. I think he was used and misunderstood his entire life and I think your stories make him real and with real feelings. That is something that every media person and a lot of people in the world forgot that he was a human being with feelings. To me your stories are uplifting and I think he would have approved of every one of them. I personally hope you continue to write them because it is a out for me when I am feeling down or having a bad day I can come here and read the stories and it gets me away from all of the every day problems and makes me feel better.
Hi Jeanine, Hi Collette!
Thanks ! That means a lot to me!
I really love the way you've said this because it's just so true. He was so beautiful, physically. I mean, come on!!! Who can deny that! And I enjoy writing them!
Oh, boy, me too!!! I really do think Michael was used all his life, from when he was very little, and I'm glad my stories are giving him if only fictionally, a different life.
It's so true, and sometimes that makes me so angry, even now!
Thank you for saying that. Michael's approval means a lot to me, and I'm so glad it brings you something Michael truly loved, escapism!!!!
Awwww, thank you Colette, that's so sweet, and I really, really appreciate hearing that!!!
I think hearing that it "feels" right FEELS right to me; that's what is important, that it's not feeling at all too much or over the top for me, or even for the majority of you guys here, as this is as much your place as it is my own. It's really our place
You've really said it perfectly. I needed to hear this right about now! Thanks!
Sabine -
in sight when I find myself simply drooling over some hot pic.
I do certainly hope you decide to keep writing. I want to let you know the effect your writing has had on me. After the most recent installment of Bad Boy Mike, I felt compelled to comment on your story, I think for the first time. What moved me to comment was not a sex scene, but when Sabah read the note Michael had written "I'm beautiful" over and over and then she went about reinforcing that message.
I was moved the tears because I so wish someone had told him that with love during his life. I don't know if anyone every convinced him of that and it hurts to think of his pain.
So, I enjoy your story - I love the sex scenes:blush: , but I also love the funny exchanges between Michael and Sabah. I love when Michael gets himself in trouble and when Sabah drives him crazy.
I follow several MJ fanfics, most are love stories that involve sex, but a few do not. I have been oved by all of them, they all go beyond Michael as sex symbol.
To me, sex is part of your story just as its part of life.
I honestly believe the vast majority of your readers would read this story even without the sex. It brings Michael to life for all of us.
I'll say too, your concerns have made me rethink the way I view Michael, I want to make sure that I keep the gift that was Michael Jackson
I believe your story brings happiness and smiles just as listening to one of Michael's songs does - he's alive with us, if only for a brief time each time we read it.
Just the thoughts of one addict.
Thanks for your efforts Sabine.
My dear, dear Sabine...
I would like to just quote what you have already said on your welcome page...
"The fictional memoirs that appear here were written from a place of pure love and respect for Michael, the philanthropist, artist and musician."
Right off the bat you have told us your main purpose for writing these stories and it SHOWS!!! It shows so much you don't even know. Your respect and love for Michael seeps through the computer screen and fills my heart up with L.O.V.E. How many times I gotta tell you... you made me CRY, girl!!! LOL!!!
Now let me just say that I know I'm always commenting on the sex and that I tell you how much I LOVE the sex, which I do. I'd be lying if I said I didn't. But the difference between the sex that you write and the sex that everyone else has written (in general, there are very FEW exceptions) is that it is done tastefully AND respectfully. I can't tell you how much I want to puke when I read some crappy fan fic of Michael banging some chick that was at his concert, acting all pimp and saying things like "Yeah, take that cock you dirty bitch."
Like, give me a fucking break. Are you for real??? When I read shit like that I'm like:
And then I'm like:
And then I'm like:
But with yours... Ah, with yours... you can feel how much Michael is in love and it's so romantic and amazing. You really have given him something that he didn't have in real life (that we know of). A normal relationship with arguments, good times, laughs and incredible love making. Yes, I like to read about the sex but as much as I get excited about the sex I also get incredibly emotional with the rest of the story. Your writing flows and slips and slides like a beautiful waterfall that I could look at forever. When Michael is hurting, I'm hurting. When he is laughing hysterically, I'm laughing with him. The sex is a bonus. It really is.
As an example... I LOVE watching this video on youtube:
But nothing gets a reaction out of me more than this:
And do you know which one I commented on??? The second one. Why??? Because this person is trying to show the world the kind of person that Michael was and the kind of heart that he had. And that is what YOU do with your stories here. Which is why I keep coming back.
If you didn't have any more sex scenes... sure. I'd be bummed I'm not gonna lie. I would be disrespecting you if I lied. But yes, I would still read them because along with making me horny you also make me sad, happy, hysterical, angry, outraged etc. A sign of a good writer!!! The sign of a good film maker and so on.
If I didn't respect Michael, I wouldn't comment on these stories. I would just skim through until I find the sex scenes, read them and movie on. But the great thing about Michael was that he was an INCREDIBLE human being AND he was sexy as all get out. He was the WHOLE PACKAGE!!! And his big heart made him sexier. Michael is sexy and I don't think it's wrong to right about him being so. How could you write a story of Michael in a relationship where Michael's girlfriend didn't lust after him??? You can't!!! But you also show the other parts that Sabah and Saniia love about him too.
If you're worried about respecting Michael, don't. Because you do. And we can see that. But at the end of the day you have to do what you feel is right. But just know that I would really miss this. You bring Michael back to life for me.
Hey Sabine...
hahaha.. I am sweet ...really. But what I wrote above is just how i've been feeling lately.. I don't like to see michael portrayed as a porn star... he wasn't even close to one.
Like I said before, you always bring Michael to life and that is what the fans want. We want michael to be here with us
I love the fact that your stories focus on "love" and bring out the TRUE michael.
I will miss them a lot if you stop writing. And so far, I think you've gone a great job of showing who michael really was. you are really talented.
:)
Hi Frodes, Sept and Elmira!
Elmira I know you're sweet!!! but that fiesty side, wwhhhhooooa -- like I said, Randy is gonna like that
I do understand where you're coming from. When my "shower" pic was vandalized, I was like OMG, how could someone do that to MICHAEL !!!!
See it wasn't really so much about me, but to Michael's memory. I don't get that how someone can say I'm a Michael Jackson fan and really like portray him like a skank or a ho and think oh, yeah, it's all good.
Frodes, girl, OMG, you made me laugh!!!!! You are too crazy.
Well, you know I was looking around for you 'cause I so wanted to hear what you had to say and it means a lot to have received your vote of confidence.
and of course you like the sex!!!! girl, this is not about not liking the sex!!!
Like I said in the post, what MAN is not going to be in bed all day and all night with his super hot girlfriend as much as he can if he's head over heels in love!!?!?!?!?!
That is just as natural as the sun shining!!!!
Thanks for sharing those beautiful videos with us!!! I love BOTH of them. And I love your description of the story, because it matches my intention perfectly.
I doubt very much they'd be a story w/o a sex scene, as I never PLAN on writing them, they just come to me just like that. Sometimes i say, no sex scene this chapter and it doesn't quite work out that way. So it is what is, but I'm glad what it is is not MJ porn!!!!!
That is beautiful!!!! Thanks!
Ms. Sept!!!! I feel very honored to have inspired those who don't usually comment to do so, and your words they are very moving!
I feel like the teacher who is thinking of retiring and all her students are like WHAT
It's so heartwarming! You guys!!!!!!!!
I remember! And it meant so much to me because that's why I wrote that scene; that's what was important about that scene to me!!!! To illustrate how these actions could have changed Michael's life and made it so much better -- at least that's what I feel.
Laught and sex are the best medicine!!!!
With someone he loved ,who also loved him back, I wish Michael had more of that than he could handle!
That's a beautiful sentiment and I think Michael would love that. As much as he loved to drive us all crazy and make us scream and faint, I think what he wanted more than anything was to be understood, the poor thing -- I think in life he felt very much misunderstood. So if after the fact I can help a few people just a few understand him better. Wow! That's like a gift to me!!!!!
That's very touching thanks so much!!!! I never thought this post would get so many really beautiful comments! I'm glad I decided to voice my concerns!
Isabeau earlier said she felt CCC was full of very loving people who really honored Michael, and I really think that's true even more now.
LOL!!! I just realized how many typos I have in my post. HAHA!!!
OMG, just noticed the new photo on the side from the Making of Thriller in the black and white jacket...
BEAUTIFUL!!! That man had a killer smile.
As usual I'm like, what picture?
I gotta go see!!!!! My memory is shot!
Sabine, I also just want to say that without this website I would not have met the amazing Cheryl and Elmira. I have made friends through your stories!!! I know that that has nothing to do with the content of what you write about but what it DOES say is the kind of crowd that you attract here, which I think is pretty kick ass.
Oh, and yet another thing... LOL!!!
About making you laugh, I always try and add a bit of humor to my comments. I always feel good about making people laugh and I love providing visuals. You know me!!! I'm all about the moving images!!!
Oh, look the jonas bros. My daugher was so obsessed w/ them for a hot minute!!!
i agree we have some lovely addicts here at CCC I mean, the best!
speaking of which, where is ms. mgirl!!?!?!?!
I'm looking forward to her special brand of humor in tackling this subject!!!!!
Well, by the time she gets here I'm sure she'll be relieved to know that you're still gonna write, LOL!!!
You know what's so funny??? I didn't even know that was the Jonas Bros. until like the 10th time that I used it to put in a post. It's not my generation and I don't have kids so what the Jonas Bros. look like was beyond me, HAHA!!!
LOOL!!
Sabine.. you ssay "randy is gonna like that" as if i'm already dating him LOLOL!!!
he doesn't even remember me i bet you! lol
Elmira, I bet you he does
Frodes, I only know because unfortunately my daughter made me endure the torture of listening to their God awful music -- sorry Jonas Fans but I am so glad their fifteen minutes seem to be UP!!!!!!!
Sabine hun it never occurred to me that you might reduce Michael. Yes there is some sex in the story but what kind of a relationship would it be if there was no sex? Not just in his case but in any other couple's case. He's in love w his woman and wants to be w her as much as possible. It's a very beautiful story it's sweet and fun and sexy and the way I see it, it should happen sth like it in real life for Michael. He so deserved it!! My comments might be mostly about the sex parts but you should really see me how bad I laugh when he does or says sth funny. And that because I can actually see him acting like this big kid he was and laughing hysterically... I can feel his pain when he's being insecure for what any reason and when he pours his heart out (well, here that is with Sabah) because you have captured him so well.. Honestly.. But if you feel you need to take a break or even stop that's ok. I'll compromise w the stories you've written so far.. I hope you don't take them down. BUT the sex is an extra.
(and that's not true. I would still keep reading the stories if there wasn't any sex. Prince Michael didn't have one for many chapters and I still kept reading it.)